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  • A Adam Maras

    Dave Parker wrote:

    (and I'm guessing management studio but dunno)

    SSMS indeed has a great database diagram tool; the only downside is that it only works against a live database. When you create and modify tables, they're committed to the database upon saving the diagram. In my case, this works great, because I just start out with a blank database and build the entire structure with the designer.

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    I thought everyone does it that way! I've been doing it (mostly) from the designer since 2000! :~

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      What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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      DABBee
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      For VS 2008 search help for Adding and Changing a Database Diagram. (Diagram is based in Server Explorer) Have only used it for SQL Server tho. Used Visio reverse engineer for both SQL Server and Oracle but there has to be a better tool. Cheers. (Oh and yeah the same thing is in SSMS)

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      • C Christian Graus

        What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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        JimmyRopes
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        Visio

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        • C Christian Graus

          What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          What database are you using? SQL Server Management studio or Visual Studio 2008 can easily generate database diagrams. (Only for SQL Server of course).

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          • C Christian Graus

            What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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            _Damian S_
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            Visio is particularly good if you have an existing DB you want to reverse-engineer the design from... Of course, it's also good to go the other way, although I still prefer to just use it to document and create the db by hand, but that's just me...

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              What database are you using? SQL Server Management studio or Visual Studio 2008 can easily generate database diagrams. (Only for SQL Server of course).

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              Christian Graus
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              SQL Server Compact, that appears to be why I am limited in my options. I may create a SQL Server Database in the management console, then generate SQL to create my end DB.

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              • C Christian Graus

                SQL Server Compact, that appears to be why I am limited in my options. I may create a SQL Server Database in the management console, then generate SQL to create my end DB.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Adam Maras
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                A wise course of action; I did the same thing with a SQL Server Compact project some months ago, never ran into a single problem. In fact, I may do the same with the project I'm working on :laugh:

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                • C Christian Graus

                  SQL Server Compact, that appears to be why I am limited in my options. I may create a SQL Server Database in the management console, then generate SQL to create my end DB.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  DABBee
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                  Have a look at http://exportsqlce.codeplex.com/ - used with SSMS 2008. Might help.

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                    Have a look at http://exportsqlce.codeplex.com/ - used with SSMS 2008. Might help.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Thanks, I will. http://exportsqlce.codeplex.com[^]

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      The hard way... SSMS | Views | Create view | Add the tables I want I generally don't keep database diagrams; I tend to use them only to check whether or not I created the relations properly.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Thanks, I will. http://exportsqlce.codeplex.com[^]

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                        DABBee
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                        (Sorry, the linky thingy wasn't working for me- probably need practice)

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                          (Sorry, the linky thingy wasn't working for me- probably need practice)

                          Candy: Don't mess with the prin-cess.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          That's cool, i pasted it out of laziness. Are you on a Mac ? I am and it sometimes doesn't work for me, either.

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                            What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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                              SELECT, but it's bluddy expensive.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                That's cool, i pasted it out of laziness. Are you on a Mac ? I am and it sometimes doesn't work for me, either.

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                                DaveAuld
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                Are you on a Mac ? I am and it sometimes doesn't work for me, either.

                                Did i read correct? something on a Mac that doesn't work........slippery slope approaching! :)

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  smcnulty2000
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                                  Depends on why I'm making them. for documentation I use Visio or PowerPoint when I don't have access to Visio. Admittedly I'm usually on a client's machine. Anything else... Pen and paper if I'm thinking through something. x

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Adriaan Davel
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                                    REAL sql developers do EVERYTHING with scripts :-D

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                                      What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      reshi999
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                                      I use Dia, its a good open source program & is also useful for network layouts and OOD.

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                                      • D DaveAuld

                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        Are you on a Mac ? I am and it sometimes doesn't work for me, either.

                                        Did i read correct? something on a Mac that doesn't work........slippery slope approaching! :)

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                                        Vincent Curry
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                                        Noooo!!!! You've got that all wrong! It's not the Mac that's not working, it's the browser/web site/something else ;P

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          What software do people use to create database diagrams ? My VS doesn't seem to offer anything ( I thought it did ), and I wanted to double check before I install Visio ( which is what I'd assume my next step is ). I have an MSDN sub, so whatever tends to be used, I probably have it.

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                                          I use http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/[^]

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