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  • D David Wulff

    A kernel is a seed from a cereal grass, e.g. corn. In computing terms it is the part of the OS responsible for resource allocation, low-level hardware interfaces, security, etc. A dynamically link library (in Windows typically a *.dll file, in some other OSs' jargon they are called "shared object files") is a library which is linked to application programs when they are loaded or run, rather than as the final phase of compilation as with a static library. This means that the same block of library code can be shared between several tasks rather than each task containing copies of the routines it uses. Kapishé? (Thanks to dictionary.com for the definitions)


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    Brian Delahunty
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    David Wulff wrote: (Thanks to dictionary.com for the definitions) Yes... Dictionary.com is very useful... came in handy when I was doing a report the other day. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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      Colin^Davies wrote: I thought it was a joke question ? Why??? Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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      Brian Delahunty wrote: Why??? :omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg: Maybe, I should keep quiet now, I feel like I have stepped waist deep in excrement. ( at least it's warm ) Regardz Colin J Davies

      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

      You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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        Brian Delahunty wrote: Why??? :omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg: Maybe, I should keep quiet now, I feel like I have stepped waist deep in excrement. ( at least it's warm ) Regardz Colin J Davies

        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

        You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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        Brian Delahunty
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        Colin^Davies wrote: Maybe I should keep quiet now, I feel like I have stepped waist deep in excrement. ( at least it's warm ) Why did you think it was a joke.. Not everybody will automatically know what the kernel and DLL's are... Not everybody is born with that information!!! Granted.. I have known for a stupidly long amount of time but I don't see anythign wrong with somebody asking what they are. Doesn't hurt me in any way. :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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          David Wulff wrote: Well knowing Peter, I am not so sure... Oh Ok, :omg::omg::omg::omg::omg: Regardz Colin J Davies

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          You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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          Colin^Davies wrote: Oh Ok, LOL :-) The :omg:'s are getting good use today!!! Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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            Colin^Davies wrote: Maybe I should keep quiet now, I feel like I have stepped waist deep in excrement. ( at least it's warm ) Why did you think it was a joke.. Not everybody will automatically know what the kernel and DLL's are... Not everybody is born with that information!!! Granted.. I have known for a stupidly long amount of time but I don't see anythign wrong with somebody asking what they are. Doesn't hurt me in any way. :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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            Brian Delahunty wrote: Not everybody is born with that information!!! I don't think anyone is born with that knowledge, and we all have to learn somewhere. Agreed. I just didn't expect to see those as questions here at CP. Granted I can't really give better expanations than dictionary.com's text book answers. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            • D David Wulff

              Well knowing Peter, I am not so sure... :rolleyes:


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              Peter Mayhew
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              :| and to think i was about come to your party tonight and bless you with my company. Time for plan "Get Dave" ;) "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                :| and to think i was about come to your party tonight and bless you with my company. Time for plan "Get Dave" ;) "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                ColinDavies
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                Hasn't anyone told you ? David's party was cancelled :-( Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Hasn't anyone told you ? David's party was cancelled :-( Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                  David Wulff
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                  Damn, why I am always the last one to find these things out?! ;)


                  David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                  Whales are drinking all our water and eating our sailors...

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                    :| and to think i was about come to your party tonight and bless you with my company. Time for plan "Get Dave" ;) "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                    Peter Mayhew wrote: Time for plan "Get Dave" Any black vans driven by guys in combat gear will be turned away at the door. Sorry. ;P


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                      Brian Delahunty wrote: Not everybody is born with that information!!! I don't think anyone is born with that knowledge, and we all have to learn somewhere. Agreed. I just didn't expect to see those as questions here at CP. Granted I can't really give better expanations than dictionary.com's text book answers. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                      You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                      The only programming experience I have is when my Electronics and Telecommunications course devolved into programming such as the Intel 8085 and the Zilog Z80 for example. Which is basically just assembly. Such fundamentals regarding a "Kernel" and ".dll" are not involved in the area of programming which i have currently experienced. The highest level of programming which I have attempted to date is C, but that was for programming a robot to obtain a basic level of artificial intelligence, but does not require “shared object files” or “_resource allocation, low-level hardware interfaces, security_y” as this programming is all done for a simple DOS based application. Yes, yes, I have to program in DOS, in case some of you didn't read that right in the first place, or just assumed I mistyped it. ;) I was hoping to get more involved in PIC (Peripheral Interface Controller) programming, in particular the PIC 16C84 microcontroller. But I just haven't found a good language to use, although the TASM lanuage sounds popular. But finding the time is another factor. -- Peter "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                        Brian Delahunty wrote: Not everybody is born with that information!!! I don't think anyone is born with that knowledge, and we all have to learn somewhere. Agreed. I just didn't expect to see those as questions here at CP. Granted I can't really give better expanations than dictionary.com's text book answers. Regardz Colin J Davies

                        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                        You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                        Brian Delahunty
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                        Colin^Davies wrote: I just didn't expect to see those as questions here at CP. Same here. I was a bit surprise to see them too. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                          Brian Delahunty wrote: Why??? :omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg: Maybe, I should keep quiet now, I feel like I have stepped waist deep in excrement. ( at least it's warm ) Regardz Colin J Davies

                          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                          You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                          Peter Mayhew
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                          Just give it a few moments until it feels cold X| "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                            The only programming experience I have is when my Electronics and Telecommunications course devolved into programming such as the Intel 8085 and the Zilog Z80 for example. Which is basically just assembly. Such fundamentals regarding a "Kernel" and ".dll" are not involved in the area of programming which i have currently experienced. The highest level of programming which I have attempted to date is C, but that was for programming a robot to obtain a basic level of artificial intelligence, but does not require “shared object files” or “_resource allocation, low-level hardware interfaces, security_y” as this programming is all done for a simple DOS based application. Yes, yes, I have to program in DOS, in case some of you didn't read that right in the first place, or just assumed I mistyped it. ;) I was hoping to get more involved in PIC (Peripheral Interface Controller) programming, in particular the PIC 16C84 microcontroller. But I just haven't found a good language to use, although the TASM lanuage sounds popular. But finding the time is another factor. -- Peter "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                            Brian Delahunty
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                            Peter Mayhew wrote: I was hoping to get more involved in PIC (Peripheral Interface Controller) programming, in particular the PIC 16C84 microcontroller. I'm starting to code for the PIC 16F877... Using MPLAB and the CCS compiler... Very interesting and very fast because I can debug directly on the chip... Don't think you'll be able to do that with the 16C84 as it's not a e2prom [eeprom] chip. Isn't the 16C84 a VU eprom??? I think it is. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                              Peter Mayhew wrote: Time for plan "Get Dave" Any black vans driven by guys in combat gear will be turned away at the door. Sorry. ;P


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                              Whales are drinking all our water and eating our sailors...

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                              David Wulff wrote: Any black vans driven Damn better cancel it, and order that pink van with yellow spots, that shouldn't stand out as bad. Well not on Dave’s estate anyway ;) "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                                David Wulff wrote: Any black vans driven Damn better cancel it, and order that pink van with yellow spots, that shouldn't stand out as bad. Well not on Dave’s estate anyway ;) "Lifes a lemon and I want my money back"

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                                David Wulff
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                                Actually, judging by the magnitude of hippy vans owned by the OAPs in my street, you may just be right! :omg:


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                                  Peter Mayhew wrote: Time for plan "Get Dave" Any black vans driven by guys in combat gear will be turned away at the door. Sorry. ;P


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                                  Whales are drinking all our water and eating our sailors...

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                                  Brian Delahunty
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                                  David Wulff wrote: Any black vans driven by guys in combat gear will be turned away at the door. Sorry. Spoil Sport :( Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                  • B Brian Delahunty

                                    Colin^Davies wrote: I just didn't expect to see those as questions here at CP. Same here. I was a bit surprise to see them too. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                    I feel you all need to realise this isn't standard information for a generic person and as i have already quite clearly pointed out, i have no experience in programming which involves such technology. I'm from an engineering background, not a programming background. This site is helpful for me to learn from, so expect more daft question from yours truely :-D --- Peter M

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                                      I feel you all need to realise this isn't standard information for a generic person and as i have already quite clearly pointed out, i have no experience in programming which involves such technology. I'm from an engineering background, not a programming background. This site is helpful for me to learn from, so expect more daft question from yours truely :-D --- Peter M

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                                      Brian Delahunty
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                                      Peter Mayhew wrote: I feel you all need to realise this isn't standard information for a generic person and as i have already quite clearly pointed out, i have no experience in programming which involves such technology. Oh, I know that. Sorry if you found offence by it. I was just surprised to see the message posted. I really don't mean any offence by saying I was surprised. Peter Mayhew wrote: This site is helpful for me to learn from, so expect more daft question from yours Fire away. Ask all the daft question you want... but just for your own sake.. Don't ask programming questions in teh Lounge.. !! :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                        Peter Mayhew wrote: I was hoping to get more involved in PIC (Peripheral Interface Controller) programming, in particular the PIC 16C84 microcontroller. I'm starting to code for the PIC 16F877... Using MPLAB and the CCS compiler... Very interesting and very fast because I can debug directly on the chip... Don't think you'll be able to do that with the 16C84 as it's not a e2prom [eeprom] chip. Isn't the 16C84 a VU eprom??? I think it is. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                        Peter Mayhew
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                                        Brian Delahunty wrote: Don't think you'll be able to do that with the 16C84 as it's not a e2prom [eeprom] chip. Isn't the 16C84 a VU eprom??? I think it is. From what I understand the the 16C84X PIC family is a eeprom. If you think overwise please send me information. --- Peter M

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                                        • P Peter Mayhew

                                          Brian Delahunty wrote: Don't think you'll be able to do that with the 16C84 as it's not a e2prom [eeprom] chip. Isn't the 16C84 a VU eprom??? I think it is. From what I understand the the 16C84X PIC family is a eeprom. If you think overwise please send me information. --- Peter M

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                                          Brian Delahunty
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                                          Your right... http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/picmicro/category/digictrl/8kbytes/devices/16c84/index.htm[^] But the chip seems to be obsolete... The http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/picmicro/category/digictrl/8kbytes/devices/16f84a/index.htm[^] is the newer one according to the site. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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