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    Dalek Dave
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    ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

    ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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      ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

      ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      I was planning to buy a copy of the book for my wife. I stopped because of your feedback before and I am glad that I saved the money. On second thoughts, I may not have saved anything because now I am obligated to buy beer for you whenever I will meet you. Buying beer for you might not be a bank breaking exercise

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        ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

        ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        He's not the worst. I'll read the book when the local library gets it.

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          ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

          ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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          Mark_Wallace
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          He writes like someone whose only education is a six-week creative writing course. Most people, quite rightly, aren't too discriminating about the quality of the written word, so long as they can understand what is going on, and the story is interesting, but a reasonably large percentage of people has been educated in English, or has at least had to struggle to write reports/theses, etc, and quite simply cannot enjoy a badly written text. I've tried to read three Dan Brown novels (even I fall prey to hype), but didn't make it past the third chapter of any of them. Having to rewrite every sentence in your head becomes tiresome in very short order, and detracts hugely from any potential enjoyment.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

            ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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            Dan Brown writes very good short stories. Unfortunately, he pads them out to Very Thick Novel format.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Dan Brown writes very good short stories. Unfortunately, he pads them out to Very Thick Novel format.

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              smcnulty2000
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              Interesting note. I've thought the same about some other famous authors. Stephen King in particular. I've not read Brown yet.

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                Dan Brown writes very good short stories. Unfortunately, he pads them out to Very Thick Novel format.

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                Lost User
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                About the right length for a two hour film then.

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                  About the right length for a two hour film then.

                  Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                  Which would explain why the films are better than the books...

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                    ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

                    ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                    Regardless of the literary merit of his work, like JK Rowling, he gets people reading, and that is a Very Good Thing.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

                      ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                      Gandalf_TheWhite
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                      Thanks again.. I was looking forward to buy it for myself... and your feedback :thumbsup:

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

                        ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        I think Tom Chivers is just jealous of Brown's money. I actually bought the book the other day, eventhough I had promised myself to buy the paper back later. I just couldn't resist it... Anyway, I've read The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, and Deception Point. I found the latter to be very boring (to the point that I just put it back on the book shelf). Other than that, I don't have much to complain about.

                        -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

                          ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                          Who is more pretentious? The author who writes a book for entertainment value or the critic shouting "I am smarter than he is!!!" Kittens on treadmills are not entertainment either, until they are viewed millions upon millions of times on YouTube when they become, prima facie, entertainment. I'm curious why you continue to read his books when they are so inferior and rubbish-filled. I met Dan Brown and attended a lecture of his before he was "famous" at a NH writer's club event. It's your prerogative to criticize his stories as inept and clumsy - reasonable people can disagree on that. I can tell you, however, that he is anything but lazy, ignorant, and pretentious. Have you ever met the man? Personal attacks like that are cheap, uncalled for, ignorant (by definition if you know nothing about him), and say far more about your shortcomings than his, if you ask me. Though I know you didn't. :D I do thank you, however, for these rantings because it underscores how lucky the rest of us dumb folk are who can just enjoy an entertaining, (but apparently) poorly written story.

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                            ...in thinking Dan Brown is an inept, clumsy, lazy, ignorant and pretentious writer. "It was a dark and stormy night..." as Bulwer-Lytton would say. See Here[^] I found this kind of verbalistic awkwardness and solecism-spattered rubbish throughout all of his books, and his attempt in The Lost Symbol to describe a plane in which the hero is travelling is very sub Tom Clancyish. Still he does tell a rattling good yarn, provided you accept that what he is writing is complete rubbish. He ain't no Freddy Forsyth, that's for sure.

                            ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                            fred_
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                            Rarely get time to read fiction.. taken as just a story, Dan is a pretty plausibly quick read

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