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  • D Dalek Dave

    The second comma is correct, the first is not. :) Well Spotted. Also Epic Fail! I forgot to put an Apostrophe in Grocers Apostrophe :( (My Bad) (Oh God, did I really say My Bad?)

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    hairy_hats
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    I forgot to put an Apostrophe in Grocers Apostrophe

    :laugh:

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    • D Dalek Dave

      The second comma is correct, the first is not. :) Well Spotted. Also Epic Fail! I forgot to put an Apostrophe in Grocers Apostrophe :( (My Bad) (Oh God, did I really say My Bad?)

      ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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      Russell Jones
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      I assumed it was a deliberate omission.

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      • L Lost User

        Do not make me bring up the British usage of "sorted". ;P

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        Russell Jones
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        As in Got any veras - sorted?

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        • L Lost User

          Do not make me bring up the British usage of "sorted". ;P

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          phannon86
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          Like a Chav in a filing cabinet :)

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          • D Dalek Dave

            The American Listing Comma. Commas are used to seperate clauses and to itemise listed items in a sentence. Commas are never to be used directly before a conjunction unless the conjunction is used as an indicative clause. Between the penultimate and ultimate items in a list the correct form to be used is the 'And'. Examples 1) I would often use a comma here, especially when writing to Americans, as this is the correct place. 2a) It is wrong to use a comma here, and here, because it looks awful. 2b) It is correct to use a comma here, and this can be proved, because it is an indicative clause. 3) In listing I would have Item 1, Item 2 and Item 3. American Media Comma: In American media it is oft seen that a comma seperates a two item list. Example "Obama asks for Money, Time, for Military" WRONG!!!! "Obama asks for Money and Time for military" The American Media Comma is an Evil, Ugly and Awkward thing and should be stamped out! It is up there with the Grocers Apostrophe and the European Dashed 7! Thankyou for your time.

            ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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            Russell Jones
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            I dash my seven's and my zee's ;-)

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              I dash my seven's and my zee's ;-)

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              Dalek Dave
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              Zee? ZEE? Don't get me started on Zee! At least Canadians know it is a Zed!

              ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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              • D Dalek Dave

                The American Listing Comma. Commas are used to seperate clauses and to itemise listed items in a sentence. Commas are never to be used directly before a conjunction unless the conjunction is used as an indicative clause. Between the penultimate and ultimate items in a list the correct form to be used is the 'And'. Examples 1) I would often use a comma here, especially when writing to Americans, as this is the correct place. 2a) It is wrong to use a comma here, and here, because it looks awful. 2b) It is correct to use a comma here, and this can be proved, because it is an indicative clause. 3) In listing I would have Item 1, Item 2 and Item 3. American Media Comma: In American media it is oft seen that a comma seperates a two item list. Example "Obama asks for Money, Time, for Military" WRONG!!!! "Obama asks for Money and Time for military" The American Media Comma is an Evil, Ugly and Awkward thing and should be stamped out! It is up there with the Grocers Apostrophe and the European Dashed 7! Thankyou for your time.

                ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                Luc Pattyn
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                this can be proved

                :doh: I would expect you to prefer proven over proved every time. A quick google was inconclusive, maybe because the majority of hits looked USish. :)

                Luc Pattyn


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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  this can be proved

                  :doh: I would expect you to prefer proven over proved every time. A quick google was inconclusive, maybe because the majority of hits looked USish. :)

                  Luc Pattyn


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                  Dalek Dave
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                  Proved is poast participle, proven is present imperfect (I think). Thus... The case has not been Proved. The case is not Proven. Actually I need to think about this one.

                  ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Proved is poast participle, proven is present imperfect (I think). Thus... The case has not been Proved. The case is not Proven. Actually I need to think about this one.

                    ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                    Luc Pattyn
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    I need to think

                    Please do. Then maybe start a new thread. :laugh:

                    Luc Pattyn


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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      The American Listing Comma. Commas are used to seperate clauses and to itemise listed items in a sentence. Commas are never to be used directly before a conjunction unless the conjunction is used as an indicative clause. Between the penultimate and ultimate items in a list the correct form to be used is the 'And'. Examples 1) I would often use a comma here, especially when writing to Americans, as this is the correct place. 2a) It is wrong to use a comma here, and here, because it looks awful. 2b) It is correct to use a comma here, and this can be proved, because it is an indicative clause. 3) In listing I would have Item 1, Item 2 and Item 3. American Media Comma: In American media it is oft seen that a comma seperates a two item list. Example "Obama asks for Money, Time, for Military" WRONG!!!! "Obama asks for Money and Time for military" The American Media Comma is an Evil, Ugly and Awkward thing and should be stamped out! It is up there with the Grocers Apostrophe and the European Dashed 7! Thankyou for your time.

                      ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      Thanks to starting to learn about computers with punched cards and paper tapes, I still use the Dashed 7 - it prevents it being confused with 1 or T. I also use slashed zero to differentiate it from "Uppercase Ohh". And Dashed Zed since 2 looks the same. If your handwriting is as bad as mine, you'd need all the help you could get, too!

                      No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Thanks to starting to learn about computers with punched cards and paper tapes, I still use the Dashed 7 - it prevents it being confused with 1 or T. I also use slashed zero to differentiate it from "Uppercase Ohh". And Dashed Zed since 2 looks the same. If your handwriting is as bad as mine, you'd need all the help you could get, too!

                        No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        OK Guilty, I dash my Zeroes!

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                        • R Russell Jones

                          As in Got any veras - sorted?

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                          As in Brit: "There is a problem with this machine. We need it sorted." Me: "No, you don't need it sorted. You need it adjusted, repaired or replaced. Sorting it would merely arrange it in a specific order in relation to other machines."

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                            The American Listing Comma. Commas are used to seperate clauses and to itemise listed items in a sentence. Commas are never to be used directly before a conjunction unless the conjunction is used as an indicative clause. Between the penultimate and ultimate items in a list the correct form to be used is the 'And'. Examples 1) I would often use a comma here, especially when writing to Americans, as this is the correct place. 2a) It is wrong to use a comma here, and here, because it looks awful. 2b) It is correct to use a comma here, and this can be proved, because it is an indicative clause. 3) In listing I would have Item 1, Item 2 and Item 3. American Media Comma: In American media it is oft seen that a comma seperates a two item list. Example "Obama asks for Money, Time, for Military" WRONG!!!! "Obama asks for Money and Time for military" The American Media Comma is an Evil, Ugly and Awkward thing and should be stamped out! It is up there with the Grocers Apostrophe and the European Dashed 7! Thankyou for your time.

                            ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            As an American, I totally, like, agree, man!

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              The American Listing Comma. Commas are used to seperate clauses and to itemise listed items in a sentence. Commas are never to be used directly before a conjunction unless the conjunction is used as an indicative clause. Between the penultimate and ultimate items in a list the correct form to be used is the 'And'. Examples 1) I would often use a comma here, especially when writing to Americans, as this is the correct place. 2a) It is wrong to use a comma here, and here, because it looks awful. 2b) It is correct to use a comma here, and this can be proved, because it is an indicative clause. 3) In listing I would have Item 1, Item 2 and Item 3. American Media Comma: In American media it is oft seen that a comma seperates a two item list. Example "Obama asks for Money, Time, for Military" WRONG!!!! "Obama asks for Money and Time for military" The American Media Comma is an Evil, Ugly and Awkward thing and should be stamped out! It is up there with the Grocers Apostrophe and the European Dashed 7! Thankyou for your time.

                              ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                              Steve Thresher
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                              Seeing as you're in the mood, how about sorting out the use of there and their? Brady was today's offender.

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                                Proved is poast participle, proven is present imperfect (I think). Thus... The case has not been Proved. The case is not Proven. Actually I need to think about this one.

                                ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                The case has not been Proved. The case is not Proven.

                                actually, it's the exact opposite. The case has not been proven. The case is not proved.

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                                  Zee? ZEE? Don't get me started on Zee! At least Canadians know it is a Zed!

                                  ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                                  According to Wikipedia[^] "In American English, its name is zee /ˈziː/, deriving from a late 17th century English dialectal form." So ultimately... the Brits are to blame. :doh:

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                                    As in Brit: "There is a problem with this machine. We need it sorted." Me: "No, you don't need it sorted. You need it adjusted, repaired or replaced. Sorting it would merely arrange it in a specific order in relation to other machines."

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                    Sorting it would merely arrange it in a specific order in relation to other machines.

                                    Maybe that's what he wanted :confused:

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                                      As in Brit: "There is a problem with this machine. We need it sorted." Me: "No, you don't need it sorted. You need it adjusted, repaired or replaced. Sorting it would merely arrange it in a specific order in relation to other machines."

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                                      Dalek Dave
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                                      How about this... American walks into a bar in London. He says to the barman,"Hi Bud, can I get a large Scotch on the rocks?" The barman replies, "No, but I will get you one and you can pay for it!" Isn't idiom wonderful?

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        The American Listing Comma. Commas are used to seperate clauses and to itemise listed items in a sentence. Commas are never to be used directly before a conjunction unless the conjunction is used as an indicative clause. Between the penultimate and ultimate items in a list the correct form to be used is the 'And'. Examples 1) I would often use a comma here, especially when writing to Americans, as this is the correct place. 2a) It is wrong to use a comma here, and here, because it looks awful. 2b) It is correct to use a comma here, and this can be proved, because it is an indicative clause. 3) In listing I would have Item 1, Item 2 and Item 3. American Media Comma: In American media it is oft seen that a comma seperates a two item list. Example "Obama asks for Money, Time, for Military" WRONG!!!! "Obama asks for Money and Time for military" The American Media Comma is an Evil, Ugly and Awkward thing and should be stamped out! It is up there with the Grocers Apostrophe and the European Dashed 7! Thankyou for your time.

                                        ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                                        I think editors suspend pretty much any grammatical rule to make headlines as short as possible. If you really want some chuckles, check out the Chicago Tribune web site sometime. It's probably the worst I've seen.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          According to Wikipedia[^] "In American English, its name is zee /ˈziː/, deriving from a late 17th century English dialectal form." So ultimately... the Brits are to blame. :doh:

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                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          So ultimately... the Brits are to blame.

                                          Whaddya mean, the Brits are to blame? It's our language so we say what the rules are! Sorted!

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