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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide. The government lies, they spin the truth, they deceive the masses, to progress their agenda. Follow the money, big insurance companies are supporting the bill. Big corporations get too profit directly off of the tax money, and also the MANDATORY health insurance like they do with auto insurance. If you don't buy it yourself, your wages will be garnished. More power over people is seized by the government, people will no longer be able to get what they need when they need it do to heavy rationing and control. It is mind boggling how people become so mind numb and out of control that they support this crap.

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    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide.

    Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

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      It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political descendants, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without there knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political dissidents, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without their knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

      Sorry, it just annoyed me. For a moment I thought he actually meant political decedents. Made it more interesting, then I realized where he was going with it and I was dissapointed.

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        Exactly how does expressing his thoughts about the "lessons" he paid for, make him an idiot?

        By annoying the professor, trust me, I know that one well. I had at least one trying to fail me. Even when your right it can be a bad idea. If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts. If I couldn't do that I would have failed that course. Despite not liking me, despite not wanting to agree with me, he couldn't prove me wrong, so he just dinged me on every little mistake I made to see if I could really hold it together well enough to make it through. Think of it this way, if I walked into your office, and you're suddenly professor of 9/11ology and declared you're full of crap and the collapse was entirely consistent with known physics and structures. I've seen what you generally consider arguing. Are you going to just nod and go along with your day, or are you going to take a closer look at this person's answers to ensure they actually have a clue at what you're teaching them?

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        Distind wrote:

        If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts.

        No, it does not matter what the professor thinks, because he is being paid by Dirk. The professor does not have the right to have any authority. If he cannot serve Dirk then he must refund Dirk's payments. If he fails Dirk because he was offended by him, then he must refund Dirk. If he doesn't, that is criminal theft, and must be prosecuted.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide.

          Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Distind wrote:

          Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

          Read the bill. Its real, saying it is not does not make it go away. Face reality, get the bill. You will see. :)

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political dissidents, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without their knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

            Sorry, it just annoyed me. For a moment I thought he actually meant political decedents. Made it more interesting, then I realized where he was going with it and I was dissapointed.

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            Look up dissident A dissident, broadly defined, is a person who actively challenges an established doctrine, policy, or institution I don't know why you underlined "their". You get put in the list without trial, and without your notice. You are not told you are on the lists, but you will find out when you try to fly or buy a gun.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              Distind wrote:

              If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts.

              No, it does not matter what the professor thinks, because he is being paid by Dirk. The professor does not have the right to have any authority. If he cannot serve Dirk then he must refund Dirk's payments. If he fails Dirk because he was offended by him, then he must refund Dirk. If he doesn't, that is criminal theft, and must be prosecuted.

              Fall of the Republic[^]

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              Do you realize that this completely undermines any assumptions involved in learning something? Reality, and most theories, aren't a take it or leave it kind of thing. I can't pick which parts of electro-magnetics I want to believe and still expect to pass physics. Only paying when they tell you what you want to hear is a pretty quick way to flush any bit of valuable knowledge down the can.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Distind wrote:

                Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

                Read the bill. Its real, saying it is not does not make it go away. Face reality, get the bill. You will see. :)

                Fall of the Republic[^]

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                I missed the part about death panels, or encouraging people to off themselves. All I saw was the fact that it'd be an option made available and clearly understood by patients.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  Look up dissident A dissident, broadly defined, is a person who actively challenges an established doctrine, policy, or institution I don't know why you underlined "their". You get put in the list without trial, and without your notice. You are not told you are on the lists, but you will find out when you try to fly or buy a gun.

                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                  Distind
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                  Check your original post, you'll understand why I underlined them. Neither appeared there when I quoted it.

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                  • D Distind

                    Check your original post, you'll understand why I underlined them. Neither appeared there when I quoted it.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    :laugh:

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                    • D Distind

                      Do you realize that this completely undermines any assumptions involved in learning something? Reality, and most theories, aren't a take it or leave it kind of thing. I can't pick which parts of electro-magnetics I want to believe and still expect to pass physics. Only paying when they tell you what you want to hear is a pretty quick way to flush any bit of valuable knowledge down the can.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      He wasn't trying to teach him anything. He was acting like Dirk is at the mercy of his powerful professor of fact and truth. :rolleyes:

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                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                        James L. Thomson wrote:

                        This instructor had every legal right to chastise his student for sending an obnoxious e-mail.

                        He said he was censored. Thats the issue here. If he only said that Dirk was inappropriate, then he should be disciplined because he is being paid to craft his lessons with a certain level of quality, and Dirk is paying him for those lessons. Dirk is in the right, its no different than complaining to his phone company or something.

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                        James L Thomson
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                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        He said he was censored.

                        He says he was "censored" by having his instructor call an inappropriate e-mail inappropriate. How horrible! :laugh:

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        Thats the issue here. If he only said that Dirk was inappropriate, then he should be disciplined because he is being paid to craft his lessons with a certain level of quality, and Dirk is paying him for those lessons. Dirk is in the right, its no different than complaining to his phone company or something.

                        I noticed a shift from "prosecuted" to "disciplined". Government prosecution and internal discipline by an employer are two very different things. Are you admitting you were wrong in requesting the former, or were you just hoping no one would notice the change?

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                        • D Dirk Higbee

                          Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

                          OMG what's the BFD?

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                          goodideadave
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                          So what's the practical result of being "censored"? Or did you mean "censured" (ala Joe Wilson)? Do you get ten points taken off your grade? Does the professor go into your student record and take away your birthday?

                          My other signature is witty and insightful.

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide. The government lies, they spin the truth, they deceive the masses, to progress their agenda. Follow the money, big insurance companies are supporting the bill. Big corporations get too profit directly off of the tax money, and also the MANDATORY health insurance like they do with auto insurance. If you don't buy it yourself, your wages will be garnished. More power over people is seized by the government, people will no longer be able to get what they need when they need it do to heavy rationing and control. It is mind boggling how people become so mind numb and out of control that they support this crap.

                            Fall of the Republic[^]

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                            Dave Kreskowiak
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                            You wear an aluminum foil hat, don't you?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            There is rationing on almost every page

                            B.S., but the Lounge is not the place for this.

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                              You wear an aluminum foil hat, don't you?

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              There is rationing on almost every page

                              B.S., but the Lounge is not the place for this.

                              A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                              Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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                              CaptainSeeSharp
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                              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                              but the Lounge is not the place for this.

                              Saying BS and then making up an excuse not to discuss further indicates that you just don't want to believe that its bad; that you just take Obama's & abc's deceptive words rather than finding out the truth.

                              Fall of the Republic[^]

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                              • D Dirk Higbee

                                Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

                                OMG what's the BFD?

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                                Gary R Wheeler
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                                If you're looking for an open mind, the very last place you should look is in a modern university.

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide. The government lies, they spin the truth, they deceive the masses, to progress their agenda. Follow the money, big insurance companies are supporting the bill. Big corporations get too profit directly off of the tax money, and also the MANDATORY health insurance like they do with auto insurance. If you don't buy it yourself, your wages will be garnished. More power over people is seized by the government, people will no longer be able to get what they need when they need it do to heavy rationing and control. It is mind boggling how people become so mind numb and out of control that they support this crap.

                                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                  Lost User
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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  If you don't buy it yourself, your wages will be garnished.

                                  ohh ohh I hope it's with a twist of lemon!

                                  I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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                                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                    but the Lounge is not the place for this.

                                    Saying BS and then making up an excuse not to discuss further indicates that you just don't want to believe that its bad; that you just take Obama's & abc's deceptive words rather than finding out the truth.

                                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                    Dave Kreskowiak
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                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    Saying BS and then making up an excuse not to discuss further indicates that you just don't want to believe that its bad

                                    No, it doesn't. This is just another "leap of logic" by you. THIS FORUM REALLY IS NOT THE PLACE FOR SUCH A DISCUSSION. You don't know me, so you have no grounds upon which to stand when discussing my beliefs or motivations.

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                                    • D Dirk Higbee

                                      I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                                      OMG what's the BFD?

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                                      Dirk Higbee wrote:

                                      I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                                      Ah, you forget something. You're in a university, you abide by their rules or you leave. Simple as that. Oh, and really.. Freedom of speech. Try burning an American flag out in the busiest spot you can. It's people like you that misuse the freedoms which is what's going to get them revoked.

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                                        I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                                        OMG what's the BFD?

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        You do indeed have every right to voice your opinion. You do not, however, have the right to insist that anyone listen. If, as seems to be the case, you have some work to do, just do it, whether you think it's ridiculous or not. The chances are that someone with more knowledge understands why it is not ridiculous for you to carry out that work, and know how you will learn from doing it.

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                                        • C chrissb

                                          Dirk Higbee wrote:

                                          I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                                          Ah, you forget something. You're in a university, you abide by their rules or you leave. Simple as that. Oh, and really.. Freedom of speech. Try burning an American flag out in the busiest spot you can. It's people like you that misuse the freedoms which is what's going to get them revoked.

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                                          Dirk Higbee
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                                          chrissb wrote:

                                          It's people like you that misuse the freedoms which is what's going to get them revoked.

                                          No, it's people like you that will get them taken away when they come and tell you when to eat, sleep and sh&t. You'll lay down like a little baby, huh?

                                          OMG what's the BFD?

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