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  • D Distind

    Really? So what exactly is it? The exact same thing he did during the election to deal with the "He's a Muslim anti-christ from Kenya" rumors? Or something even more diabolical?

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    Distind wrote:

    So what exactly is it?

    Its a propaganda tool to control what people think, and it is good for collecting data about political dissidents.

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      Distind wrote:

      deal with the consequences of it.

      Yeah, you can go around breaking windows too, but you have to deal with the consequences. There is a big difference between expressing your thoughts with vocal patterns or written symbols and breaking windows.

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      Yes, if you prove your an idiot in a academic setting, you get failed. If you break a window you get to pay for it for face legal charges. These are quite typical, and if you didn't fail idiots for being idiots, then idiots would continue to be idiots without ever even considering they may be an idiot. I'm rather bored, so I figured I'd see how many times I could fit that into a sentence, though it seems to have become a runon much like this one.

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        James L. Thomson wrote:

        You're attempting to punish his instructor for exercising his basic rights.

        What rights are you referring to? Educational institutions are a business, and he is being paid to serve Dirk, and Dirk has to pay one way or another for his instructor's services. The school should refund Dirk's money if they can't perform their duties.

        James L. Thomson wrote:

        You're also receiving financial contributions from the government. Ergo, by your logic, you need to be prosecuted.

        Citation? I don't collect welfare, I've paid half of my income into the system. You are out of line.

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        What rights are you referring to? Educational institutions are a business, and he is being paid to serve Dirk, and Dirk has to pay one way or another for his instructor's services. The school should refund Dirk's money if they can't perform their duties.

        A person's basic rights do not cease to exist merely because they are employed. This instructor had every legal right to chastise his student for sending an obnoxious e-mail. Your suggestion that he be prosecuted is far closer to violating a person's free speech rights than he ever did, although it too falls well short of anything illegal. It's funny that you say your all for "free-speech" and then propose to legally punish those whose speech you don't agree with.

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        Citation? I don't collect welfare, I've paid half of my income into the system. You are out of line.

        I thought I remembered you going into some long speech on your use of food stamps. Or maybe that was a different troll, you all look alike to me.

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          Distind wrote:

          So what exactly is it?

          Its a propaganda tool to control what people think, and it is good for collecting data about political dissidents.

          Fall of the Republic[^]

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          So what should they do, let the Death panels roam the wild political landscape when reality is they're a load?

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            Yes, if you prove your an idiot in a academic setting, you get failed. If you break a window you get to pay for it for face legal charges. These are quite typical, and if you didn't fail idiots for being idiots, then idiots would continue to be idiots without ever even considering they may be an idiot. I'm rather bored, so I figured I'd see how many times I could fit that into a sentence, though it seems to have become a runon much like this one.

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            Distind wrote:

            Yes, if you prove your an idiot in a academic setting, you get failed.

            Exactly how does expressing his thoughts about the "lessons" he paid for, make him an idiot? What gives the instructor the right to take his money, and fail him because he didn't like what Dirk said about the quality of his lessons? He is paid to do the job and he is expected to do it right and craft his lessons with quality.

            Distind wrote:

            These are quite typical, and if you didn't fail idiots for being idiots, then idiots would continue to be idiots without ever even considering they may be an idiot.

            Controlling what Dirk can say or think about the quality of his lessons or product that he paid for is way out of line. Everybody wants to be a criminal mafia boss or dictator these days.

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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              What rights are you referring to? Educational institutions are a business, and he is being paid to serve Dirk, and Dirk has to pay one way or another for his instructor's services. The school should refund Dirk's money if they can't perform their duties.

              A person's basic rights do not cease to exist merely because they are employed. This instructor had every legal right to chastise his student for sending an obnoxious e-mail. Your suggestion that he be prosecuted is far closer to violating a person's free speech rights than he ever did, although it too falls well short of anything illegal. It's funny that you say your all for "free-speech" and then propose to legally punish those whose speech you don't agree with.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              Citation? I don't collect welfare, I've paid half of my income into the system. You are out of line.

              I thought I remembered you going into some long speech on your use of food stamps. Or maybe that was a different troll, you all look alike to me.

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              James L. Thomson wrote:

              This instructor had every legal right to chastise his student for sending an obnoxious e-mail.

              He said he was censored. Thats the issue here. If he only said that Dirk was inappropriate, then he should be disciplined because he is being paid to craft his lessons with a certain level of quality, and Dirk is paying him for those lessons. Dirk is in the right, its no different than complaining to his phone company or something.

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                So what should they do, let the Death panels roam the wild political landscape when reality is they're a load?

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                I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide. The government lies, they spin the truth, they deceive the masses, to progress their agenda. Follow the money, big insurance companies are supporting the bill. Big corporations get too profit directly off of the tax money, and also the MANDATORY health insurance like they do with auto insurance. If you don't buy it yourself, your wages will be garnished. More power over people is seized by the government, people will no longer be able to get what they need when they need it do to heavy rationing and control. It is mind boggling how people become so mind numb and out of control that they support this crap.

                Fall of the Republic[^]

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                • D Dirk Higbee

                  Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

                  OMG what's the BFD?

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                  No, this is People's Unitary of Uhmerikka! You don't express your opinions in Uhmerikka, you don't even have the right to exist in this country.

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                    Distind wrote:

                    Yes, if you prove your an idiot in a academic setting, you get failed.

                    Exactly how does expressing his thoughts about the "lessons" he paid for, make him an idiot? What gives the instructor the right to take his money, and fail him because he didn't like what Dirk said about the quality of his lessons? He is paid to do the job and he is expected to do it right and craft his lessons with quality.

                    Distind wrote:

                    These are quite typical, and if you didn't fail idiots for being idiots, then idiots would continue to be idiots without ever even considering they may be an idiot.

                    Controlling what Dirk can say or think about the quality of his lessons or product that he paid for is way out of line. Everybody wants to be a criminal mafia boss or dictator these days.

                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    Exactly how does expressing his thoughts about the "lessons" he paid for, make him an idiot?

                    By annoying the professor, trust me, I know that one well. I had at least one trying to fail me. Even when your right it can be a bad idea. If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts. If I couldn't do that I would have failed that course. Despite not liking me, despite not wanting to agree with me, he couldn't prove me wrong, so he just dinged me on every little mistake I made to see if I could really hold it together well enough to make it through. Think of it this way, if I walked into your office, and you're suddenly professor of 9/11ology and declared you're full of crap and the collapse was entirely consistent with known physics and structures. I've seen what you generally consider arguing. Are you going to just nod and go along with your day, or are you going to take a closer look at this person's answers to ensure they actually have a clue at what you're teaching them?

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                      I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide. The government lies, they spin the truth, they deceive the masses, to progress their agenda. Follow the money, big insurance companies are supporting the bill. Big corporations get too profit directly off of the tax money, and also the MANDATORY health insurance like they do with auto insurance. If you don't buy it yourself, your wages will be garnished. More power over people is seized by the government, people will no longer be able to get what they need when they need it do to heavy rationing and control. It is mind boggling how people become so mind numb and out of control that they support this crap.

                      Fall of the Republic[^]

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                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide.

                      Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

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                        It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political descendants, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without there knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

                        Fall of the Republic[^]

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                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political dissidents, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without their knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

                        Sorry, it just annoyed me. For a moment I thought he actually meant political decedents. Made it more interesting, then I realized where he was going with it and I was dissapointed.

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                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          Exactly how does expressing his thoughts about the "lessons" he paid for, make him an idiot?

                          By annoying the professor, trust me, I know that one well. I had at least one trying to fail me. Even when your right it can be a bad idea. If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts. If I couldn't do that I would have failed that course. Despite not liking me, despite not wanting to agree with me, he couldn't prove me wrong, so he just dinged me on every little mistake I made to see if I could really hold it together well enough to make it through. Think of it this way, if I walked into your office, and you're suddenly professor of 9/11ology and declared you're full of crap and the collapse was entirely consistent with known physics and structures. I've seen what you generally consider arguing. Are you going to just nod and go along with your day, or are you going to take a closer look at this person's answers to ensure they actually have a clue at what you're teaching them?

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                          Distind wrote:

                          If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts.

                          No, it does not matter what the professor thinks, because he is being paid by Dirk. The professor does not have the right to have any authority. If he cannot serve Dirk then he must refund Dirk's payments. If he fails Dirk because he was offended by him, then he must refund Dirk. If he doesn't, that is criminal theft, and must be prosecuted.

                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I went though the bill that I got directly from the .gov website. There is rationing on almost every page, you can't miss it. Medical facilities are REQUIRED to give periodic "end of life counseling" to certain patients, they will try to "sell" you the idea of committing suicide.

                            Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

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                            Distind wrote:

                            Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

                            Read the bill. Its real, saying it is not does not make it go away. Face reality, get the bill. You will see. :)

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                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political dissidents, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without their knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

                              Sorry, it just annoyed me. For a moment I thought he actually meant political decedents. Made it more interesting, then I realized where he was going with it and I was dissapointed.

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                              Look up dissident A dissident, broadly defined, is a person who actively challenges an established doctrine, policy, or institution I don't know why you underlined "their". You get put in the list without trial, and without your notice. You are not told you are on the lists, but you will find out when you try to fly or buy a gun.

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                                Distind wrote:

                                If you think something is screwy, you express your thoughts in a manner conducive to getting a real response. Question something, don't declare it's crap. And better yet, back up your points with solid facts.

                                No, it does not matter what the professor thinks, because he is being paid by Dirk. The professor does not have the right to have any authority. If he cannot serve Dirk then he must refund Dirk's payments. If he fails Dirk because he was offended by him, then he must refund Dirk. If he doesn't, that is criminal theft, and must be prosecuted.

                                Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                Do you realize that this completely undermines any assumptions involved in learning something? Reality, and most theories, aren't a take it or leave it kind of thing. I can't pick which parts of electro-magnetics I want to believe and still expect to pass physics. Only paying when they tell you what you want to hear is a pretty quick way to flush any bit of valuable knowledge down the can.

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                                  Distind wrote:

                                  Have you ever heard what happens when you assume? I will have no part in such things.

                                  Read the bill. Its real, saying it is not does not make it go away. Face reality, get the bill. You will see. :)

                                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                  I missed the part about death panels, or encouraging people to off themselves. All I saw was the fact that it'd be an option made available and clearly understood by patients.

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                                    Look up dissident A dissident, broadly defined, is a person who actively challenges an established doctrine, policy, or institution I don't know why you underlined "their". You get put in the list without trial, and without your notice. You are not told you are on the lists, but you will find out when you try to fly or buy a gun.

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                                    Check your original post, you'll understand why I underlined them. Neither appeared there when I quoted it.

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                                    • D Distind

                                      Check your original post, you'll understand why I underlined them. Neither appeared there when I quoted it.

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                                      :laugh:

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                                        Do you realize that this completely undermines any assumptions involved in learning something? Reality, and most theories, aren't a take it or leave it kind of thing. I can't pick which parts of electro-magnetics I want to believe and still expect to pass physics. Only paying when they tell you what you want to hear is a pretty quick way to flush any bit of valuable knowledge down the can.

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                                        He wasn't trying to teach him anything. He was acting like Dirk is at the mercy of his powerful professor of fact and truth. :rolleyes:

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                                          James L. Thomson wrote:

                                          This instructor had every legal right to chastise his student for sending an obnoxious e-mail.

                                          He said he was censored. Thats the issue here. If he only said that Dirk was inappropriate, then he should be disciplined because he is being paid to craft his lessons with a certain level of quality, and Dirk is paying him for those lessons. Dirk is in the right, its no different than complaining to his phone company or something.

                                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          He said he was censored.

                                          He says he was "censored" by having his instructor call an inappropriate e-mail inappropriate. How horrible! :laugh:

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          Thats the issue here. If he only said that Dirk was inappropriate, then he should be disciplined because he is being paid to craft his lessons with a certain level of quality, and Dirk is paying him for those lessons. Dirk is in the right, its no different than complaining to his phone company or something.

                                          I noticed a shift from "prosecuted" to "disciplined". Government prosecution and internal discipline by an employer are two very different things. Are you admitting you were wrong in requesting the former, or were you just hoping no one would notice the change?

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