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    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    Don't put yourself down into the same category as occupied by Joshua Henize. You are a lot better than that.

    You're too kind.

    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    FEMA is the "Federal Emergency Management Agency".

    Thanks, the rest makes sense now; except for the somewhat outrageous claims ...

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    Richard MacCutchan wrote:

    Thanks, the rest makes sense now; except for the somewhat outrageous claims ...

    FEMA is a favorite target of conspiracy theorists because they're given an unusual amount of authority and autonomy over an area when a state of emergency is declared. Apparently this means they must be trying to take over the world, because obviously there's no other reason why they would need to be able to act quickly and free of red tape during a massive emergency.

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      *grin* I was just kidding around. Actually, I am sure that Montana is lovely. I was just looking to make a comment on how US prisons are over crowded because they lock up anyone who has ever touched a joint.

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      For hunting and fishing and hiking and all that, sure, Montana, Western Alberta/Easter British Columbia, Washington State, they're all brilliant like that. But really, you'd need a steady supply of hard drugs to live there...

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        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

        Thanks, the rest makes sense now; except for the somewhat outrageous claims ...

        FEMA is a favorite target of conspiracy theorists because they're given an unusual amount of authority and autonomy over an area when a state of emergency is declared. Apparently this means they must be trying to take over the world, because obviously there's no other reason why they would need to be able to act quickly and free of red tape during a massive emergency.

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        James L. Thomson wrote:

        FEMA is a favorite target of conspiracy theorists because ...

        if you watch most films, tv series etc these days you would believe that every US government agency is totally sinister, and managed by foreign agents.

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        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

          For hunting and fishing and hiking and all that, sure, Montana, Western Alberta/Easter British Columbia, Washington State, they're all brilliant like that. But really, you'd need a steady supply of hard drugs to live there...

          If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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          You might, but I don't. I don't NEED the drugs, I just use them to enhance the experience. :laugh:

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            So: It is not a camp run by FEMA; It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners; It is not run by foreign contractors and military. 0 out of 3. I am following the prison saga with interest, I love the sheer incompetence displayed by the City Fathers. Thanks for bringing Hardin MT to my attention.

            Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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            FEMA can use anything as a 'gathering area' or camp. A sports dome or a school can be used when they want to use it, they can take over anything.

            Bob Emmett wrote:

            It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners;

            Its in the process of vast expansion, a total of 24 million dollars worth of expansion.

            Bob Emmett wrote:

            It is not run by foreign contractors and military.

            The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

            Fall of the Republic[^]

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              FEMA can use anything as a 'gathering area' or camp. A sports dome or a school can be used when they want to use it, they can take over anything.

              Bob Emmett wrote:

              It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners;

              Its in the process of vast expansion, a total of 24 million dollars worth of expansion.

              Bob Emmett wrote:

              It is not run by foreign contractors and military.

              The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

              Fall of the Republic[^]

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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

              All of which are ruled by me the Illuminati.

              OSDev :)

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              • L Lost User

                You might, but I don't. I don't NEED the drugs, I just use them to enhance the experience. :laugh:

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                :-D I'll take your word for it!

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                • L Lost User

                  But I did chuckle when this American Police Force apparently rolled up in town in their SUV's decked out with Police regalia etc and was told to remove all traces of this regalia. But the local newspaper can't make its mind up if there is 464 or 646 beds. Custer would have been disappointed and Chief Sitting Bull not particularly amused with what they are proposing. :laugh:

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                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  rolled up in town in their SUV's decked out with Police regalia etc and was told to remove all traces of this regalia.

                  Perused some of the 'discussion' posts this morning. (Joys of retirement. :) ) One had a video of the SUVs in full regalia. In the centre of the City of Hardin Police Department decal was the APF logo[^] which is almost identical to the Serbian Coat of Arms[^]. So Hardin is about to be policed by Serbian mercenaries. :omg: This is the most amusing of our resident gull's postings. edit [blockquote overrun]

                  Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

                    All of which are ruled by me the Illuminati.

                    OSDev :)

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                    Not like it matters... The whole thing was only set up for the sake of a couple white mice[^] anyway.

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                    • I Ian Shlasko

                      Not like it matters... The whole thing was only set up for the sake of a couple white mice[^] anyway.

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                      I'm sorry, but I have to silence you there. Franky and Benjy were the leaders of the Illuminati. For the sake of my underlings, I'm asking you to stop, or face the black and orange helicopters.

                      OSDev :)

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                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                        rolled up in town in their SUV's decked out with Police regalia etc and was told to remove all traces of this regalia.

                        Perused some of the 'discussion' posts this morning. (Joys of retirement. :) ) One had a video of the SUVs in full regalia. In the centre of the City of Hardin Police Department decal was the APF logo[^] which is almost identical to the Serbian Coat of Arms[^]. So Hardin is about to be policed by Serbian mercenaries. :omg: This is the most amusing of our resident gull's postings. edit [blockquote overrun]

                        Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                        Their population is a little over 3400 and they call this Hardin place a "City". Why? it is more like a village, if they didn't have a place of worship, it might fit the description of "Hamlet". Apparently, one APF principal was born in Montenegro. Makes you wonder if private company's can use the coat of arms of a foreign country. Presumably if HM Queen's insignia is used without her permission, heads might roll. The APF has as of yet not been made aware that the State of Montana has a constitution that forbids the creation of a private police force. [^] This story is getting wackier by the day :laugh:

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                          FEMA can use anything as a 'gathering area' or camp. A sports dome or a school can be used when they want to use it, they can take over anything.

                          Bob Emmett wrote:

                          It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners;

                          Its in the process of vast expansion, a total of 24 million dollars worth of expansion.

                          Bob Emmett wrote:

                          It is not run by foreign contractors and military.

                          The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          FEMA can use anything as a 'gathering area' or camp. A sports dome or a school can be used when they want to use it, they can take over anything.

                          Your drugs are causing memory loss![

                          Bob Emmett wrote:

                          Indeed any facility that can be adapted to detain large numbers of people can be used as a FEMA camp.

                          ](http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3216430/Re-Inside-a-real-FEMA-camp.aspx)[^] So the subject of your post should have been: Inside a potential FEMA camp, should FEMA decide to use it. And, instead of a small prison in Hardin, you could have shown a sports dome that could house tens of thousands, or one holding tens of thousands[^].

                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          Its in the process of vast expansion, a total of 24 million dollars worth of expansion.

                          It currently provides 464 beds, the infrastructure will support another 500 beds. So a 114,000 square-foot building accommodates fewer than 1000 prisoners at a cost of $27 million. Would another $24 million will provide an infrastructure for tens of thousands? No. A 30,000 square-foot military-style training facility and a 75,000 square-foot dormitory for 250 trainees are planned. These will cost $17 million to build and $6 million to equip. Allowing for rounding, that's where your $24 million is said to be going. (There was talk of a $30 million investment, which, in addition to the above development, would expand the gaol to accomodate 2000 prisoners.)

                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

                          That could be, but, until I see your evidence, I remain unconvinced. Regardless of the above, although TRA and APF are said to have signed a contract, the bankers (who hold the bonds) have not. So APF runs nothing So: It is not a camp run by FEMA; It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners; It is not run by foreign contractors and military. 0 out of 3.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            FEMA can use anything as a 'gathering area' or camp. A sports dome or a school can be used when they want to use it, they can take over anything.

                            Your drugs are causing memory loss![

                            Bob Emmett wrote:

                            Indeed any facility that can be adapted to detain large numbers of people can be used as a FEMA camp.

                            ](http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3216430/Re-Inside-a-real-FEMA-camp.aspx)[^] So the subject of your post should have been: Inside a potential FEMA camp, should FEMA decide to use it. And, instead of a small prison in Hardin, you could have shown a sports dome that could house tens of thousands, or one holding tens of thousands[^].

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            Its in the process of vast expansion, a total of 24 million dollars worth of expansion.

                            It currently provides 464 beds, the infrastructure will support another 500 beds. So a 114,000 square-foot building accommodates fewer than 1000 prisoners at a cost of $27 million. Would another $24 million will provide an infrastructure for tens of thousands? No. A 30,000 square-foot military-style training facility and a 75,000 square-foot dormitory for 250 trainees are planned. These will cost $17 million to build and $6 million to equip. Allowing for rounding, that's where your $24 million is said to be going. (There was talk of a $30 million investment, which, in addition to the above development, would expand the gaol to accomodate 2000 prisoners.)

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            The company is operated by our owner china and under the nose of the extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.

                            That could be, but, until I see your evidence, I remain unconvinced. Regardless of the above, although TRA and APF are said to have signed a contract, the bankers (who hold the bonds) have not. So APF runs nothing So: It is not a camp run by FEMA; It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners; It is not run by foreign contractors and military. 0 out of 3.

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                            There is a reason that they are called concentration camps. And they are going to tell the public that they aren't for anything more than tortured Gitmo's and terrorists.

                            Fall of the Republic[^]

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                              Their population is a little over 3400 and they call this Hardin place a "City". Why? it is more like a village, if they didn't have a place of worship, it might fit the description of "Hamlet". Apparently, one APF principal was born in Montenegro. Makes you wonder if private company's can use the coat of arms of a foreign country. Presumably if HM Queen's insignia is used without her permission, heads might roll. The APF has as of yet not been made aware that the State of Montana has a constitution that forbids the creation of a private police force. [^] This story is getting wackier by the day :laugh:

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                              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                              Their population is a little over 3400 and they call this Hardin place a "City".

                              Well, Wales calls itself a nation.

                              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                              one APF principal was born in Montenegro

                              Michael Hilton doesn't sound very Serbian (until he starts to speak, they say). Is he a citizen of the USA? Is he wanted for war crimes in Yugoslavia? I think the gull should be told.

                              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                              The APF has as of yet not been made aware that the State of Montana has a constitution that forbids the creation of a private police force.

                              Damn, those SUVs don't come cheap.

                              Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                                There is a reason that they are called concentration camps. And they are going to tell the public that they aren't for anything more than tortured Gitmo's and terrorists.

                                Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                There is a reason that they are called concentration camps.

                                There is indeed, but it has nothing to do with the density of a camp's population.

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                And they are going to tell the public that they aren't for anything more than tortured Gitmo's and terrorists.

                                Pronouns must always refer to a preceding noun, otherwise the meaning of the sentence is obscured. If there is no preceding noun, use the noun and not a pronoun. If you really believe your government is going to tell you that the FEMA camps are for Gitmo prisoners and terrorists only, to lull you into a false sense of security, and then - POW! - don't forget school, you are a rebel: listen your MP3 player, smoke, and drink coffee during indoctrination. Sleep well. In the meantime: It is not a camp run by FEMA; It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners; It is not run by foreign contractors and military. 0 out of 3.

                                Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  There is a reason that they are called concentration camps.

                                  There is indeed, but it has nothing to do with the density of a camp's population.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  And they are going to tell the public that they aren't for anything more than tortured Gitmo's and terrorists.

                                  Pronouns must always refer to a preceding noun, otherwise the meaning of the sentence is obscured. If there is no preceding noun, use the noun and not a pronoun. If you really believe your government is going to tell you that the FEMA camps are for Gitmo prisoners and terrorists only, to lull you into a false sense of security, and then - POW! - don't forget school, you are a rebel: listen your MP3 player, smoke, and drink coffee during indoctrination. Sleep well. In the meantime: It is not a camp run by FEMA; It cannot hold tens of thousands of prisoners; It is not run by foreign contractors and military. 0 out of 3.

                                  Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                                  Bob Emmett wrote:

                                  There is indeed, but it has nothing to do with the density of a camp's population.

                                  So in your puny mind, concentration is some code for something other than the condition of being concentrated.

                                  Bob Emmett wrote:

                                  If you really believe your government is going to tell you that the FEMA camps are for Gitmo prisoners and terrorists

                                  That IS what the news is saying. That is the purpose of the facility.

                                  Bob Emmett wrote:

                                  listen your MP3 player, smoke, and drink coffee during indoctrination.

                                  Yeah, you can't even do that anymore without being punished.

                                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                    I'm sorry, but I have to silence you there. Franky and Benjy were the leaders of the Illuminati. For the sake of my underlings, I'm asking you to stop, or face the black and orange helicopters.

                                    OSDev :)

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                                    Helicopters? Wow, you guys really fell behind... No matter transporters? You know it's a grave offense to impersonate one of the mice, human!

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                                      Helicopters? Wow, you guys really fell behind... No matter transporters? You know it's a grave offense to impersonate one of the mice, human!

                                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                                      Why would I impersonate my subordinates? I have the mind control chips implanted into them, so they do anything I tell them to anyway. You have my sincere apologies. I thought you were a human. Since I'm now doubting that assessment, I have to break out the temporal transposition devices. I shall teleport you into the Thames in the summer of 1858.

                                      OSDev :)

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                                        Bob Emmett wrote:

                                        There is indeed, but it has nothing to do with the density of a camp's population.

                                        So in your puny mind, concentration is some code for something other than the condition of being concentrated.

                                        Bob Emmett wrote:

                                        If you really believe your government is going to tell you that the FEMA camps are for Gitmo prisoners and terrorists

                                        That IS what the news is saying. That is the purpose of the facility.

                                        Bob Emmett wrote:

                                        listen your MP3 player, smoke, and drink coffee during indoctrination.

                                        Yeah, you can't even do that anymore without being punished.

                                        Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        So in your puny mind, concentration is some code for something other than the condition of being concentrated.

                                        Let us say we have a camp that provides accommodation for families. 500 pleasant little bungalows, 3 bedrooms, lounge, dining area, kitchen, bathroom, utility room. Lawns to the front, yard to the rear. Entertainment facilities are laid on: swimming pool, ice rink, gym, sports field, theatre, bars, whatever the the inmates want. Educational facilities are provided. A model village - except that you cannot leave, or communicate beyond, its confines. If a random selection of the population were impounded, it would not be a concentration camp. If, however, only Vietnamese families, or communist families, or Lutheran families, or vaccine refuseniks were impounded, it would be a concentration camp. The term 'concentration' is derived from the concentration of a particular segment of society in one place where their actions may be restricted and monitored. So, all penitentiaries could be termed 'concentration camps', as they concentrate felons in one place.

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        That IS what the news is saying.

                                        Links, please, to where your government has told you that FEMA camps are for terrorists and Gitmo prisoners.

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        That is the purpose of the facility.

                                        What is the purpose of which facility? The government are pretending that the Hardin gaol is for Gitmo prisoners and terrorists? Well the offer of the gaol for Gitmo prisoners was turned down (unsurprisingly, since it was built for "minimum- and medium-security inmates").

                                        Bob Emmett wrote:

                                        don't forget school, you are a rebel: listen to your MP3 player, smoke, and drink coffee during indoctrination.

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        Yeah, you can't even do that anymore without being punished.

                                        :rolleyes:

                                        Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                                          Why would I impersonate my subordinates? I have the mind control chips implanted into them, so they do anything I tell them to anyway. You have my sincere apologies. I thought you were a human. Since I'm now doubting that assessment, I have to break out the temporal transposition devices. I shall teleport you into the Thames in the summer of 1858.

                                          OSDev :)

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                                          How dare you! You'll regret this, caretaker! The mice will hear of this! You haven't seen the laaaaaast oooffffff mmmmmee--

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