Is this allowed?
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Hello All, Currently running on the Lounge are two threads that reproduced the contents of the Register and the ComputerWorld articles here: 1. Users hold back on plans for .Net 2. MS cracks down on MSDN subs, threatens 'random audits' Is this allowed? Regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for day job or programming contract anywhere!
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Hello All, Currently running on the Lounge are two threads that reproduced the contents of the Register and the ComputerWorld articles here: 1. Users hold back on plans for .Net 2. MS cracks down on MSDN subs, threatens 'random audits' Is this allowed? Regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for day job or programming contract anywhere!
I'd have to concur with Paul that this is not allowed. I've removed the article text from my thread and would advise others to do the same. Note that publishing a link to the article may also not be allowed without the authors or publisher's permission. Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net
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Hello All, Currently running on the Lounge are two threads that reproduced the contents of the Register and the ComputerWorld articles here: 1. Users hold back on plans for .Net 2. MS cracks down on MSDN subs, threatens 'random audits' Is this allowed? Regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for day job or programming contract anywhere!
I'm No Lawyer, But I also believe it's a breach of Copywrite, You Can however Report a published article in your own words, And even quote from it giving a reference Regardz Colin
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Hello All, Currently running on the Lounge are two threads that reproduced the contents of the Register and the ComputerWorld articles here: 1. Users hold back on plans for .Net 2. MS cracks down on MSDN subs, threatens 'random audits' Is this allowed? Regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for day job or programming contract anywhere!
Quoting other's work is allowed if you credit the source of the original article. Check out http://www.benedict.com/basic/fairuse/fairtest.htm: "the fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting... is not an infringement of copyright". Also: "the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole" must be considered. "the quantity, as well as the quality and importance, of the copied material must be considered. Some Justices have looked to see that 'no more was taken than was necessary'" So: we can quote stuff, we just have to give credit, and be carful to quote no more than is necessary (this can be open to interpretation I guess) cheers, Chris Maunder
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Quoting other's work is allowed if you credit the source of the original article. Check out http://www.benedict.com/basic/fairuse/fairtest.htm: "the fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting... is not an infringement of copyright". Also: "the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole" must be considered. "the quantity, as well as the quality and importance, of the copied material must be considered. Some Justices have looked to see that 'no more was taken than was necessary'" So: we can quote stuff, we just have to give credit, and be carful to quote no more than is necessary (this can be open to interpretation I guess) cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris, Will you describe the threads in question as quotes or reproductions? Regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for day job or programming contract anywhere!
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Chris, Will you describe the threads in question as quotes or reproductions? Regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for day job or programming contract anywhere!
I'd call them reproductions (I'll qualify this below). Hence "we can quote stuff, we just have to give credit, and be carful to quote no more than is necessary". There's actually an interesting point here though: If you quote the text without reproducing the format and graphics, is it a quote or a reproduction? Or a full quote or just a reproduction of the content? Anyone here know IP law? I think Steven did the right thing, I just don't want people thinking they can't quote anything cheers, Chris Maunder
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I'd call them reproductions (I'll qualify this below). Hence "we can quote stuff, we just have to give credit, and be carful to quote no more than is necessary". There's actually an interesting point here though: If you quote the text without reproducing the format and graphics, is it a quote or a reproduction? Or a full quote or just a reproduction of the content? Anyone here know IP law? I think Steven did the right thing, I just don't want people thinking they can't quote anything cheers, Chris Maunder
Thanks Chris. I've sent some e-mails to people who have posted this same article in the same fashion on other sites, asking them what their legal standing with the original author and/or publisher was. If I get any responses, I'll let everyone know. The _last_ thing that I want to do is to cause a problem for yourself or CodeProject. Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net
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I'd have to concur with Paul that this is not allowed. I've removed the article text from my thread and would advise others to do the same. Note that publishing a link to the article may also not be allowed without the authors or publisher's permission. Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net
Re: "publishing a link to the article may also not be allowed without the authors or publisher's permission." Not to rathole, but in the US, I think this is would be a violation of my 1st amendement rights. I believe I can freely include a link to any URI in content authored by me. Of course, quoting from (or reproducing) other peoples' work is a whole different thing. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com
