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  • R ragnaroknrol

    I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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    ragnaroknrol wrote:

    and Americans make it silent because

    they are too lazy to pronounce it. ;)

    ragnaroknrol wrote:

    only hicks and idiots use sheeps

    I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ;P ).

    I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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      ragnaroknrol wrote:

      and Americans make it silent because

      they are too lazy to pronounce it. ;)

      ragnaroknrol wrote:

      only hicks and idiots use sheeps

      I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ;P ).

      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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      ragnaroknrol
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      Steve_Harris wrote:

      I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

      Nah, it's the fact that "h" seems to think it is special. It messes with "c" all the time, changing it to something entirely different than it is used to. Poor "s" goes from being a nice plural sort of fellow to making people shush up. If that wasn't bad enough it makes "t" have a lisp. I mean, come on, no letter should be this important that whenever it follows another letter the other letters have to suddenly drop what they are doing and change states. Face it, "h" is an uppity jerk.

      Steve_Harris wrote:

      I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

      You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment. Idiots and hicks use "sheeps." ;)

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      • I Ian Shlasko

        I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way.

        It's alright we take pity on those that can't read. Come over here and we'll provide you with free accommodation and a salary. ;P


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        • R ragnaroknrol

          I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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          ragnaroknrol wrote:

          As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain.

          Well if you are capable of understanding those funny hieroglyphics they use, you can make Sheeps Music. Clickety[^]. While you search for them.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          • I Ian Shlasko

            I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new.

            Perhaps the reason you can't afford one is becasue you cannot pronounce it?

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            • H Henry Minute

              Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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              I've been Americanized (I say "toe-may-toe", rather than "toe-mah-toe") but back in Blighty, I figured the "day-ta" / "dah-ta" pronunciation was regional, like "ant" / "aren't" for your Uncle's wife, or "she has fer her"

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".

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                Irregardless used to bug me too until I learned it is actually a real word. Check it out.

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                • R ragnaroknrol

                  Steve_Harris wrote:

                  I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

                  Nah, it's the fact that "h" seems to think it is special. It messes with "c" all the time, changing it to something entirely different than it is used to. Poor "s" goes from being a nice plural sort of fellow to making people shush up. If that wasn't bad enough it makes "t" have a lisp. I mean, come on, no letter should be this important that whenever it follows another letter the other letters have to suddenly drop what they are doing and change states. Face it, "h" is an uppity jerk.

                  Steve_Harris wrote:

                  I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

                  You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment. Idiots and hicks use "sheeps." ;)

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                  ragnaroknrol wrote:

                  Steve_Harris wrote: I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ). You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment.

                  If it helps; this is also relevant in travel guides to New Zealand, Scotland, and Montana.

                  The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                    ragnaroknrol wrote:

                    Steve_Harris wrote: I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ). You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment.

                    If it helps; this is also relevant in travel guides to New Zealand, Scotland, and Montana.

                    The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                    ragnaroknrol
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                    gotcha, my sleep deprived brain got it now. I thought it was a guide for when to use velcro gloves in those places, not a travel guide...

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                    • H hairy_hats

                      Jag-yoo-arrrrrr, Niss-ann (Nee-sahn??????:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:) always. And aluminium. Do you prefer Potassum, Sodum, Iridum, Calcum, Radum, Samarum and Magnesum too?

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Nope. Po-tass-i-um = 4 syllables So-di-um = 3 syllables I-rid-i-um = 4 syllables ... Mag-ne-si-um = 4 syllables And then here comes Aluminium... 5 syllables. That's just gratuitous, and it sounds too important and full of itself. More importantly, it's an extra "beat" when used in a sentence. Pretend you're talking in verse or sing-song and saying the sentence, "It's an aluminium can"... Yes, you're singing about a discarded soda can... Try it. ("beats" in bold) British: It's an aluminium can American: It's an aluminum can See? That's a 25% savings because of the pause between the "al" and the first "u". That "i" has got to go. Interestingly enough, Firefox's built-in spell check gives me the red underline every time I spell it "your" way, with the "i".

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school.

                        As both an American and a native Chicagoan, I can't tell you how much better it is having a President who can pronounce nuclear correctly.

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                        Oh, I agree completely. I would wince every time I heard Dubya say "Nukular" to another world leader... Felt like Vin Diesel at the beginning of Fast and the Furious (The old one)... "Shut up, you're EMBARASSING ME!" And to the die-hard republicans... Say what you will about Obama, because obviously there's good and bad, but you have to admit he can give a speech without sounding like a drunk teenager.

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                        • E Ed Poore

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way.

                          It's alright we take pity on those that can't read. Come over here and we'll provide you with free accommodation and a salary. ;P


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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          We read it just fine. See, we changed the spelling to match our pronunciation, and that's why Firefox draws a red underline under "aluminium" but doesn't complain about "aluminum" :)

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                          • S Shelby Robertson

                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new.

                            Perhaps the reason you can't afford one is becasue you cannot pronounce it?

                            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                            Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                            Trollslayer wrote:

                            Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            Tsk... So hostile. Ok, I'll clarify... The people with so much money to burn that they can buy one without significantly depleting their bank accounts. And yes, I know the "e" is not SUPPOSED to be silent, but it just sounds better without it. "Porsche Boxster" just rolls off the tongue nicely without the extra syllable.

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                              Tsk... So hostile. Ok, I'll clarify... The people with so much money to burn that they can buy one without significantly depleting their bank accounts. And yes, I know the "e" is not SUPPOSED to be silent, but it just sounds better without it. "Porsche Boxster" just rolls off the tongue nicely without the extra syllable.

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                              Ian Shlasko wrote:

                              "Porsche Boxster" just rolls off the tongue nicely without the extra syllable.

                              No, it makes it sound like something GM would produce.

                              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                              Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                              Trollslayer wrote:

                              Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                              • H hairy_hats

                                I say S-Q-L, others say Squirrel or Sequel. Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.

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                                Steve_Harris wrote:

                                Squirrel

                                On previous jobs I used PRO*C, so when I started using SQL Server 6, before esql came out, I began writing something like PRO*C and I called it Squirrel.

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Nope. Po-tass-i-um = 4 syllables So-di-um = 3 syllables I-rid-i-um = 4 syllables ... Mag-ne-si-um = 4 syllables And then here comes Aluminium... 5 syllables. That's just gratuitous, and it sounds too important and full of itself. More importantly, it's an extra "beat" when used in a sentence. Pretend you're talking in verse or sing-song and saying the sentence, "It's an aluminium can"... Yes, you're singing about a discarded soda can... Try it. ("beats" in bold) British: It's an aluminium can American: It's an aluminum can See? That's a 25% savings because of the pause between the "al" and the first "u". That "i" has got to go. Interestingly enough, Firefox's built-in spell check gives me the red underline every time I spell it "your" way, with the "i".

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                                  I think you're thinking about this a bit much!

                                  I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                                  • S Shelby Robertson

                                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                    "Porsche Boxster" just rolls off the tongue nicely without the extra syllable.

                                    No, it makes it sound like something GM would produce.

                                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                    Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                                    Trollslayer wrote:

                                    Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                                    Ian Shlasko
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                                    Wouldn't know... I don't buy American cars. *sigh*... I miss my Altima. Ok, so I don't buy ANY cars anymore, living in New York City, but if I did still own a car, it'd probably be a Nissan or Toyota.... Or a Tesla Roadster, if I won the lottery.

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                                      I think you're thinking about this a bit much!

                                      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      Yep... Trying to reboot my brain... Been working on the same project all day, and got too zoned into it... If you get too close, you start to lose the big picture, and it's time to reboot.

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                                      • A aalex675

                                        Irregardless used to bug me too until I learned it is actually a real word. Check it out.

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                                        It's inefficient and misleading -- like "inflammable".

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                                        • I Ian Shlasko

                                          Wouldn't know... I don't buy American cars. *sigh*... I miss my Altima. Ok, so I don't buy ANY cars anymore, living in New York City, but if I did still own a car, it'd probably be a Nissan or Toyota.... Or a Tesla Roadster, if I won the lottery.

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                                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                          I don't buy American cars.

                                          And you shouldn't. I agree with you on Nissan, I'm a fan. I also like the Mazdas that Ford didnt touch.

                                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                          Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                                          Trollslayer wrote:

                                          Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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