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  • S Simon P Stevens

    So today is 20th of October 2009. In UK format that is 20/10/2009. Kinda makes sense right, smallest to biggest. Logical. In US format it's 10/20/2009. Now to me that's totally illogical. Why would you do that. Can any Americans explain to me why this makes sense. (lets try to forget about patriotism). I don't understand why it would ever be useful to break the logical order. It's like writing the time in HH:SS:MM. [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

    Simon

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    realJSOP
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    Well... This thread appears to have turned into a euro-trash love fest...

    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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    • H hairy_hats

      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Samoa recently changed from right to left.

      All at once, or gradually?

      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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      __yash__
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      Actually they have divided all the roads into two sections, so you keep changing from right to left and vice-versa upon section changes. Just imagine.....smart idea, me thinks :p

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        Actually it is the safer side. Human brains have a tendency to turn left to avoid a crash, (this is standard in aviation), and in UK this means going up the embankment or hitting a wall. In the US this means crossing into the oncoming traffic, very nasty. And this is not Nationalistic BS...many studies will show this, also there is a five out of six chance you are right handed, and where better to keep you dominant hand than on the wheel. Samoa recently changed from right to left.

        ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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        Rage
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        Enys could help us on that, but I am pretty sure you turn right to avoid a crash (in aviation). I can't find a link, have to check my books home.

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        • P phannon86

          See I've always wondered this, I'm left handed, and feel very comfortable changing gear with the left with the right hand on the wheel. I've imagined changing gear with my right hand, and it feels odd!

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs 10/10/2009 Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs

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          I would guess it's because you were always taught the good habit of driving on the left, always useful when your in a country where everyone else is doing the same ;)

          - Rob

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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Samoa recently changed from right to left.

            All at once, or gradually?

            I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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            Steve_Harris wrote:

            All at once, or gradually?

            :laugh:

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            • S Simon P Stevens

              throw new PrivacyInvadedException(); Why do you want to know? ;P

              Simon

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              Dalek Dave
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              I was hoping you would say something like 5' 11" so that I could reply with a bit of scorn at your sticking with metrics, but you confounded me! :)

              ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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              • S Simon P Stevens

                So today is 20th of October 2009. In UK format that is 20/10/2009. Kinda makes sense right, smallest to biggest. Logical. In US format it's 10/20/2009. Now to me that's totally illogical. Why would you do that. Can any Americans explain to me why this makes sense. (lets try to forget about patriotism). I don't understand why it would ever be useful to break the logical order. It's like writing the time in HH:SS:MM. [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

                Simon

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                Michael Schubert
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                Simon Stevens wrote:

                [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

                Arabic developers might see that differently...

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                  Well... This thread appears to have turned into a euro-trash love fest...

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  Hans Dietrich
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  Well... This thread appears to have turned into a euro-trash love fest...

                  Correct. And everybody totally missed the point: Chuck Norris does NOT drive on the left.

                  Best wishes, Hans


                  [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                    I would guess it's because you were always taught the good habit of driving on the left, always useful when your in a country where everyone else is doing the same ;)

                    - Rob

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                    phannon86
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                    I've driven on the right once, when I was last over't pond. Very strange! However, it was an automatic (which I'd also never driven before) so it wasn't really a problem. The biggest difference was going from driving (my now long gone) Saxo, to a Dodge Caravan :laugh:

                    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs 10/10/2009 Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs

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                    • H Hans Dietrich

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      Well... This thread appears to have turned into a euro-trash love fest...

                      Correct. And everybody totally missed the point: Chuck Norris does NOT drive on the left.

                      Best wishes, Hans


                      [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                      Michael Schubert
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                      Hans Dietrich wrote:

                      Chuck Norris does NOT drive on the left.

                      Chuck Norris can drive on either side of the road. All others have to follow suit.

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                      • M Michael Schubert

                        Simon Stevens wrote:

                        [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

                        Arabic developers might see that differently...

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                        Keith Barrow
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                        Actually, this format would still work for AH Dates. Of course, converting from Ah to AD/CE isn't easy. I think we should just use ticks.

                        CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!)

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                        • H hairy_hats

                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Samoa recently changed from right to left.

                          All at once, or gradually?

                          I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                          Abu Mami
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                          Steve_Harris wrote:

                          All at once, or gradually?

                          I think they had all 11 drivers switch over at the same time.

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Half a night out in Gateshead then?

                            ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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                            Quarter of a night out at a student union.


                            I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                            • K Keith Barrow

                              Actually, this format would still work for AH Dates. Of course, converting from Ah to AD/CE isn't easy. I think we should just use ticks.

                              CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!)

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                              Michael Schubert
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                              keefb wrote:

                              I think we should just use ticks.

                              Or stardates.

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                Well... This thread appears to have turned into a euro-trash love fest...

                                Correct. And everybody totally missed the point: Chuck Norris does NOT drive on the left.

                                Best wishes, Hans


                                [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                                Abu Mami
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                                and Chuck Norris is 5' 10"

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                                  I've driven on the right once, when I was last over't pond. Very strange! However, it was an automatic (which I'd also never driven before) so it wasn't really a problem. The biggest difference was going from driving (my now long gone) Saxo, to a Dodge Caravan :laugh:

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                                  Hmm, that reminds me I wonder how ICMC (a mountaineering club I'm part of) are going to fare this weekend. They've been given a long-wheel base Land Rover for the weekend (they just pay the fuel) and the four drivers listed comprise of:

                                  • Someone who's only been driving a year and only Saxo sized vehicles
                                  • Someone else who's only been driving a Saxo since she passed her test
                                  • Someone who's only ever driving a Micra

                                  And I'm hazarding a guess that based on the description of the seating arrangement (2+2+4 sideways in the back) it's going to be a 130 which is longer than the normal "long-wheel-base" Defenders. In fact none of them have even driven a diesel. Oh well, if they'd been a bit more on the ball then I'd have been available and could have driven it, considering I'm used to vehicles of that size and have driven at least once all possibilities of that type of LR. I almost wish I was going just to see how they cope with the driving...


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                                    and Chuck Norris is 5' 10"

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                                    Abu Mami wrote:

                                    5' 10"

                                    I always thought he's more like 1.5 yards.

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                                      Hmm, that reminds me I wonder how ICMC (a mountaineering club I'm part of) are going to fare this weekend. They've been given a long-wheel base Land Rover for the weekend (they just pay the fuel) and the four drivers listed comprise of:

                                      • Someone who's only been driving a year and only Saxo sized vehicles
                                      • Someone else who's only been driving a Saxo since she passed her test
                                      • Someone who's only ever driving a Micra

                                      And I'm hazarding a guess that based on the description of the seating arrangement (2+2+4 sideways in the back) it's going to be a 130 which is longer than the normal "long-wheel-base" Defenders. In fact none of them have even driven a diesel. Oh well, if they'd been a bit more on the ball then I'd have been available and could have driven it, considering I'm used to vehicles of that size and have driven at least once all possibilities of that type of LR. I almost wish I was going just to see how they cope with the driving...


                                      I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                                      merridus
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                                      Ed.Poore wrote:

                                      I almost wish I was going just to see how they cope with the driving...

                                      And just slip in on Sunday evening, "Oh me? Yeah I have experience driving vehicles like this. Why? did you want me to drive?"

                                      - Rob

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                                      • K Keith Barrow

                                        Or half a Quart! Or four Gills. Really, people should be intelligent enough to work out unit measurements.

                                        CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!)

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                                        keefb wrote:

                                        Or four Gills.

                                        Hence drinking like a fish? :rolleyes:

                                        Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                        • S Simon P Stevens

                                          So today is 20th of October 2009. In UK format that is 20/10/2009. Kinda makes sense right, smallest to biggest. Logical. In US format it's 10/20/2009. Now to me that's totally illogical. Why would you do that. Can any Americans explain to me why this makes sense. (lets try to forget about patriotism). I don't understand why it would ever be useful to break the logical order. It's like writing the time in HH:SS:MM. [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

                                          Simon

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                                          Corporal Agarn
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                                          I agree with the yyyy-mm-dd as most of the time sort order is a pain and with Microsoft helping it really gets interesting. With the year first it would make life easier

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