Do you still buy LPs?
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Kwakkie wrote: Part of listening to music is the mood creation, and I think vinyl creates a great mood. (it certainly beats getting a disc out of some plastic case, and putting it in a cd player). How? How does the constant "ssssssssssssssskkskkssssssssssssssssssssssskkssssss" noise provide a great mood? Worse, how does removing an LP from a sleeve improve the experience over removing a CD from a case? ;P Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
Paul Riley wrote: How does the constant "ssssssssssssssskkskkssssssssssssssssssssssskkssssss" noise provide a great mood? I don't have that. If you take good care of your records, and have a decent turntable, you won't hear those noises. Paul Riley wrote: Worse, how does removing an LP from a sleeve improve the experience over removing a CD from a case? I don't realy know. It just does. The LPs are in a nice big sleeve. A CD feels sow.... plastic. And it's nice to watch the turntable while listening. I am talking about listening to music (not in the background, so no other activities allowed in the meantime). ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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Ahh, vinyl. <fondly remembering the clicks and pops throughout favorite songs> Nope. I gave all my old LPs to my brother, and that was like 10-11 years ago. Enjoy it! Good Luck finding a good turntable. BW The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to talk, mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding. - Jack Kerouac
brianwelsch wrote: Good Luck finding a good turntable My dad is a HiFi nut and regularly drags me over to his copy of HiFi Magazine to show me the latest and greatest in turntable technology. And it is serious stuff. A lot of HiFi nuts prefer LP to CD for quality and so the turntable manufacturing market is quite good, on the high end of course (I saw one for 12000 pounds!)
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Paul Riley wrote: How does the constant "ssssssssssssssskkskkssssssssssssssssssssssskkssssss" noise provide a great mood? I don't have that. If you take good care of your records, and have a decent turntable, you won't hear those noises. Paul Riley wrote: Worse, how does removing an LP from a sleeve improve the experience over removing a CD from a case? I don't realy know. It just does. The LPs are in a nice big sleeve. A CD feels sow.... plastic. And it's nice to watch the turntable while listening. I am talking about listening to music (not in the background, so no other activities allowed in the meantime). ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Kwakkie wrote: I don't have that. If you take good care of your records, and have a decent turntable, you won't hear those noises. Every LP zealot says that. But I used to pay a small fortune for top quality needles, I was that obsessive. And yet even a brand new album would hiss, even if it didn't crackle til the third or fourth time through. Kwakkie wrote: I don't realy know. It just does. The LPs are in a nice big sleeve. A CD feels sow.... plastic. :-D Fair enough. Bizarre, but fair enough. Kwakkie wrote: And it's nice to watch the turntable while listening. Get one of those CD players where you can watch the disk spinning. Maybe a little faster but just as cool :) Kwakkie wrote: I am talking about listening to music (not in the background, so no other activities allowed in the meantime). Oh believe me, I know what you mean. I'm quite happy to shut off the TV, the PC, even the lights and listen to a good CD. Nothing like it. But if anything it's when you do really listen to music that the hissing really pisses me off :) Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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I still buy vinyl. Mostly new releases. If I must choose between a cd and lp, I'll take the lp version. I just love the feeling of putting a vinyl record on my turntable. Part of listening to music is the mood creation, and I think vinyl creates a great mood. (it certainly beats getting a disc out of some plastic case, and putting it in a cd player). Of course, if you only need background music, a cd is just as good. I love my Technics SL-1210 MK ;) ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Kwakkie wrote: I just love the feeling of putting a vinyl record on my turntable. Totally agree with that. Something special about sliding that black disc out of it's sleeve, handling it carefully, keeping your fingers on the edge and gently placing it down on the turntable. I also love putting down the turntable needle, you line it all up and get a good feeling when it gets into place. What you pointed out is also a good reason why I will probably never want to read books on PDAs or e-readers or whatever. Love the feel of handling a book.
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I just got my first (well first 4) LPs today! It was the AnotherLateNight Tommy Guerrero unmixed 3LP set and a 1 of 1000 additional one featuring a mixed version of Come Together (the Beatles classic for those that don't know) and some stuff read by Sir Patrick Moore that I haven't listened to yet. So now I can add some vinyl to my music collection -- and oh what music this is! They say if you don't dig this compliation you may actually be dead, and I am inclined to agree. In fact if you don't dig it I may just kill you to keep your genes out of recirculation for the good of mankind. If you can't play or don't want the vinyl release you can get the complication on CD from Amazon[^] or your local music store. The CD release includes everything on one CD though obviously you loose the satisfaction of bragging to your friends like this. ;P And do you know what is best about this - it didn't cost me a penny. Not one. I won it all last night from a student radio station I listen to (the Late Show @ www.sbn.co.uk). Unfortunately the only turntable I have access to is on my mothers really old hi-fi system, and mine at home doesn't have a turntable (the bastards!). Looks like David will be browsing eBay this afternoon looking for a new hi-fi. :-D So to make this more than a public announcement of my happiness today (sorry Christian but someones gotta be happy) my question is as the subject: do you still buy LPs? Either new releases or classics - DJ's not allowed to answer 'cause that would be cheating.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
Save a tapestry, eat a cat
Nope, and I stopped using my Commadore 64 too! :)
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No, dont buy them (where do you buy them btw?), have nothing to play them on. But i think they should replaces CD's with LP's for computers. Wouldn't it be cool to have an eg. Windows 2000 LP? ..and then you could do some scratching when installing to get a completely custom W2k installation. :) /Magnus
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_Magnus_ wrote: where do you buy them btw? You might want to try the same place where you get your CDs... :confused: Every record store I go to has vinyl... ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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_Magnus_ wrote: where do you buy them btw? You might want to try the same place where you get your CDs... :confused: Every record store I go to has vinyl... ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Kwakkie wrote: You might want to try the same place where you get your CDs... Amazon? ;P Kwakkie wrote: Every record store I go to has vinyl... Ya know, I don't think I have a single (excuse the pun) "record shop" within 15 miles of me. It's all CD departments of bigger stores. LPs just don't sell enough any more to justify anyone opening a record shop in the country (at least in the UK). Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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Kwakkie wrote: I just love the feeling of putting a vinyl record on my turntable. Totally agree with that. Something special about sliding that black disc out of it's sleeve, handling it carefully, keeping your fingers on the edge and gently placing it down on the turntable. I also love putting down the turntable needle, you line it all up and get a good feeling when it gets into place. What you pointed out is also a good reason why I will probably never want to read books on PDAs or e-readers or whatever. Love the feel of handling a book.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaPaul Watson wrote: What you pointed out is also a good reason why I will probably never want to read books on PDAs or e-readers or whatever. Love the feel of handling a book Now that, to be fair, is a good point. It has to be said though that it has more to do with the fact that it's less obnoxious to the eyes and it's really uncomfortable taking a laptop to the toilet :-D Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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brianwelsch wrote: Good Luck finding a good turntable My dad is a HiFi nut and regularly drags me over to his copy of HiFi Magazine to show me the latest and greatest in turntable technology. And it is serious stuff. A lot of HiFi nuts prefer LP to CD for quality and so the turntable manufacturing market is quite good, on the high end of course (I saw one for 12000 pounds!)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaPaul Watson wrote: I saw one for 12000 pounds!) damn! :omg: That's sort of what I thought, however, not quite so much. I guess I figured most new turntables were geared to Djs though, and probably had some added features for that money. Paul Watson wrote: to show me the latest and greatest in turntable technology I'll let my ignorance shine for me here. What are they improving? BW The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to talk, mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding. - Jack Kerouac
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The reply was intended for _Magnus_ but the forums seems to misplace the message. Sorry about that. (Then again, there is nothing I can do about it). ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
No, I figured out who the message was to, despite the fact that this thread seems to be getting increasingly messed up. I was just making a point. Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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Kwakkie wrote: You might want to try the same place where you get your CDs... Amazon? ;P Kwakkie wrote: Every record store I go to has vinyl... Ya know, I don't think I have a single (excuse the pun) "record shop" within 15 miles of me. It's all CD departments of bigger stores. LPs just don't sell enough any more to justify anyone opening a record shop in the country (at least in the UK). Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
The reply was intended for _Magnus_ but the forums seems to misplace the message. Sorry about that. (Then again, there is nothing I can do about it). ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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Simon Capewell wrote: Particularly when the cat parks itself on your lap Train the cat to do it. The fur will come in handy for the cleaning part. :) /Magnus
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And save the claws when the cat doesn't need them any more! Phono needles are becoming almost impossible to find. Word of the day: Rotundacrat
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Kwakkie wrote: You might want to try the same place where you get your CDs... Amazon? ;P Kwakkie wrote: Every record store I go to has vinyl... Ya know, I don't think I have a single (excuse the pun) "record shop" within 15 miles of me. It's all CD departments of bigger stores. LPs just don't sell enough any more to justify anyone opening a record shop in the country (at least in the UK). Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
Paul Riley wrote: Amazon? For instance. They do sell vinyl... ;P ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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Paul Riley wrote: Amazon? For instance. They do sell vinyl... ;P ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Kwakkie wrote: For instance. They do sell vinyl... You know... I'd never noticed that before. Seems to be a rather limited collection though, at least in terms of modern music; not really surprising as people expect at least an hour of music on a CD nowadays but LPs start degrading at more than 45 minutes. Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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Paul Riley wrote: But if anything it's when you do really listen to music that the hissing really pisses me off ;)Too bad for you, they are adding the hissing / cracking / popping effect on purpose in some of the music... ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Kwakkie wrote: Too bad for you, they are adding the hissing / cracking / popping effect on purpose in some of the music... True enough, and it's very rarely an improvement. It does seem to work on Eminem's Way I Am, for some reason though. :shrug: Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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Kwakkie wrote: I don't have that. If you take good care of your records, and have a decent turntable, you won't hear those noises. Every LP zealot says that. But I used to pay a small fortune for top quality needles, I was that obsessive. And yet even a brand new album would hiss, even if it didn't crackle til the third or fourth time through. Kwakkie wrote: I don't realy know. It just does. The LPs are in a nice big sleeve. A CD feels sow.... plastic. :-D Fair enough. Bizarre, but fair enough. Kwakkie wrote: And it's nice to watch the turntable while listening. Get one of those CD players where you can watch the disk spinning. Maybe a little faster but just as cool :) Kwakkie wrote: I am talking about listening to music (not in the background, so no other activities allowed in the meantime). Oh believe me, I know what you mean. I'm quite happy to shut off the TV, the PC, even the lights and listen to a good CD. Nothing like it. But if anything it's when you do really listen to music that the hissing really pisses me off :) Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
Paul Riley wrote: But if anything it's when you do really listen to music that the hissing really pisses me off ;)Too bad for you, they are adding the hissing / cracking / popping effect on purpose in some of the music... ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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I just got my first (well first 4) LPs today! It was the AnotherLateNight Tommy Guerrero unmixed 3LP set and a 1 of 1000 additional one featuring a mixed version of Come Together (the Beatles classic for those that don't know) and some stuff read by Sir Patrick Moore that I haven't listened to yet. So now I can add some vinyl to my music collection -- and oh what music this is! They say if you don't dig this compliation you may actually be dead, and I am inclined to agree. In fact if you don't dig it I may just kill you to keep your genes out of recirculation for the good of mankind. If you can't play or don't want the vinyl release you can get the complication on CD from Amazon[^] or your local music store. The CD release includes everything on one CD though obviously you loose the satisfaction of bragging to your friends like this. ;P And do you know what is best about this - it didn't cost me a penny. Not one. I won it all last night from a student radio station I listen to (the Late Show @ www.sbn.co.uk). Unfortunately the only turntable I have access to is on my mothers really old hi-fi system, and mine at home doesn't have a turntable (the bastards!). Looks like David will be browsing eBay this afternoon looking for a new hi-fi. :-D So to make this more than a public announcement of my happiness today (sorry Christian but someones gotta be happy) my question is as the subject: do you still buy LPs? Either new releases or classics - DJ's not allowed to answer 'cause that would be cheating.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
Save a tapestry, eat a cat
I haven't seen an LP for sale in at least a decade. I do, however, keep my turntable in working order, as my collection contains classics that I doubt will ever be re-released on CD (or whatever comes next). I recently had to buy a new drive band, as the old one was so stretched and dried out that it slipped constantly causing excruciating aural pain even when it wasn't playing Neil Young music. Fortunately, Technics (Panasonic) still sell parts on their website. Last I checked they still sold turntables, too! Mine was purchased in 1971 and has never needed a significant repair, so I'd highly recommend the brand. Word of the day: Rotundacrat
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Simon Capewell wrote: corrosive ink syndrome Uh oh! Now I will run home paranoid that my CDs are disolving in their cases! :eek:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
Save a tapestry, eat a cat
Don't worry too much. It's a failure rate of <0.5%, and they were both the round edged type which don't seem to be in production any more (obviously for a good reason)
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Kwakkie wrote: For instance. They do sell vinyl... You know... I'd never noticed that before. Seems to be a rather limited collection though, at least in terms of modern music; not really surprising as people expect at least an hour of music on a CD nowadays but LPs start degrading at more than 45 minutes. Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
It's indeed rather limited, and the number of releases certainly depends on the genre. Paul Riley wrote: as people expect at least an hour of music on a CD nowadays but LPs start degrading at more than 45 minutes. That's why the LP version of a CD is a double LP release most of the time... ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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Paul Riley wrote: How does the constant "ssssssssssssssskkskkssssssssssssssssssssssskkssssss" noise provide a great mood? I don't have that. If you take good care of your records, and have a decent turntable, you won't hear those noises. Paul Riley wrote: Worse, how does removing an LP from a sleeve improve the experience over removing a CD from a case? I don't realy know. It just does. The LPs are in a nice big sleeve. A CD feels sow.... plastic. And it's nice to watch the turntable while listening. I am talking about listening to music (not in the background, so no other activities allowed in the meantime). ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My first CP article: Pseudoregisters[^] "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
A collection of records looks much nicer than a collection of CDs. You've got the big sleeve, sometimes gatefold, the inner sleeve. As for watching the LP on the turntable, some of them have completely mindbending labels :wtf: And don't forget the hidden message in the runout groove. Often 'A porky prime cut' if the guys at the pressing plant were fans :)