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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    Pirates vs Ninjas is a very specialised operation.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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    Single Step Debugger
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    It’s also very messy considering nunchakos versus cannons.

    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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    • L LimitedAtonement

      Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

      In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      • S Single Step Debugger

        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Then there's the whole "Architect" title, which is just a fancy way of saying "Designer,"

        In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”. So, do we have any Architects here? :-D

        The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

        In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”.

        There, it reads much better now.

        “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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        • L LimitedAtonement

          Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

          In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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          Joe Woodbury
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          I don't think there's a bit of difference except in the minds of our paymasters for whom we adjust our titles to maximize our perceived utility. Computer Programmer Software Developer Software Engineer All the same. I actually prefer Computer Programmer since a) non-computer people know what your talking about and b) it doesn't sound pretentious. However, I've learned that managers like the title Software Engineer since it sounds important, so I use it. (In some places Software Architect sounds even more important though I shun it since I know too many horrible engineers/developers/programmers for whom this is a refuge from their suckiness.)

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          • M Mario Luis

            Pretty much what everyone else says. A Developer develops. They take concepts and ideas and formulate them into systems, processes and code. Programmers just basicaly code, normally to a spec. Don't think round the box or the consequances of a problem. Everyone starts as a programer :D but only some become true developers.

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            David Crow
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            When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.

            "Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown

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            • L LimitedAtonement

              Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

              In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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              LimitedAtonement
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              Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

              Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

              Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

              In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.

                "Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown

                "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Programming has become easier, but development has become more difficult.

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                  peterchen wrote:

                  programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                  programmer = converts specification and pizza into code. developer = converts requirements and pizza into code. architect = converts requirements and nail varnish into specifications. FFY. :)

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                  peterchen
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                  Yup, that's in my line of thought.

                  Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                  • L LimitedAtonement

                    Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

                    Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

                    Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

                    In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                    mav octaval
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                    In my card I put "Developer! Developer! Developer!" when I want to work in a microsoft shop.

                    -- Miguel A. Vilariño Software Developer

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                      In my card I put "Developer! Developer! Developer!" when I want to work in a microsoft shop.

                      -- Miguel A. Vilariño Software Developer

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      I think you left off a "Developer!" -- the most important one too.

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                      • P peterchen

                        programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                        Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                        | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                        Roger Wright
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                        engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.

                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                          engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.

                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                          MidwestLimey
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                          Who in turn overburden the device with demands that forces the engineer to consume more beer to produce a faster one ...

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                            engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                            peterchen
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                            Because the software guys always have to fix the hardware bugs ;P

                            Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                            • L LimitedAtonement

                              Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

                              Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

                              Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

                              In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                              RichardM1
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                              Sorry, I was reaching for the page 1 link and accidentally 1-rated you.

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