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  • M Mario Luis

    Pretty much what everyone else says. A Developer develops. They take concepts and ideas and formulate them into systems, processes and code. Programmers just basicaly code, normally to a spec. Don't think round the box or the consequances of a problem. Everyone starts as a programer :D but only some become true developers.

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    David Crow
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    When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.

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    • L LimitedAtonement

      Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

      In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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      LimitedAtonement
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      Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

      Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

      Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

      In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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        When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.

        "Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown

        "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Programming has become easier, but development has become more difficult.

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        • CPalliniC CPallini

          peterchen wrote:

          programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

          programmer = converts specification and pizza into code. developer = converts requirements and pizza into code. architect = converts requirements and nail varnish into specifications. FFY. :)

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          peterchen
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          Yup, that's in my line of thought.

          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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          • L LimitedAtonement

            Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

            Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

            Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

            In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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            mav octaval
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            In my card I put "Developer! Developer! Developer!" when I want to work in a microsoft shop.

            -- Miguel A. Vilariño Software Developer

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            • M mav octaval

              In my card I put "Developer! Developer! Developer!" when I want to work in a microsoft shop.

              -- Miguel A. Vilariño Software Developer

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              I think you left off a "Developer!" -- the most important one too.

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              • P peterchen

                programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                Roger Wright
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                engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.

                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.

                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  MidwestLimey
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                  Who in turn overburden the device with demands that forces the engineer to consume more beer to produce a faster one ...

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                    engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.

                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                    peterchen
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                    Because the software guys always have to fix the hardware bugs ;P

                    Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                    | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                    • L LimitedAtonement

                      Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

                      Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

                      Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

                      In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                      RichardM1
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                      Sorry, I was reaching for the page 1 link and accidentally 1-rated you.

                      Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.

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