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  • S Shog9 0

    ToddHileHoffer wrote:

    However, I know of few people who created standard LOB applications with ASP.Net but have switched to Silverlight.

    Then they probably didn't need to be web apps in the first place... Some people just hop on whatever is trendy. ;-)

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    Businesses do web applications so they don't have to worry about installing the .net framework on the clients. I don't think it is a big deal, but this why it is done that way.

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    • S Shelby Robertson

      I overheard a conversation at the office this morning in which someone claimed to know that ASP.NET is "going away" in favor of Silverlight. Now did i miss an announcement somewhere or did someone at my office get snookered by the Silverlight marketing team?

      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      Unpaid overtime is slavery.

      Trollslayer wrote:

      Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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      Shelby Robertson
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      It didn't make any sense to me, but I just wanted to make sure i didn't miss an announcement about MS killing asp.net.

      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      Unpaid overtime is slavery.

      Trollslayer wrote:

      Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        ToddHileHoffer wrote:

        but have switched to Silverlight

        What is one the backend server? Ruby on Rails?

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        ASP.Net / SQL Server. I guess...

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        • T ToddHileHoffer

          ASP.Net / SQL Server. I guess...

          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          So SilverLight did not replace ASP.NET:)

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          • S Shelby Robertson

            I overheard a conversation at the office this morning in which someone claimed to know that ASP.NET is "going away" in favor of Silverlight. Now did i miss an announcement somewhere or did someone at my office get snookered by the Silverlight marketing team?

            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            Unpaid overtime is slavery.

            Trollslayer wrote:

            Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            To say ASP.NET is getting replaced by SilverLight is not entirely correct as they are not competing technologies. SilverLight is a technology aimed at replacing some of Dynamic HTML rendering and provide rich media applications. Now SIlverLight 3 has support for controls such as DataGrid and charts, so some LOB applications instead of using HTML forms can use Silverlight based forms. But the task still remains to post data from the client to the server and do something to the data. For these tasks ASP.NET or any other server technology is still needed. If you are using windows and IIS ASP.NET is the one of the better choice. ASP.NET webforms can be replaced with SilverLight but not the server side infrastructure of ASP.NET.

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            • T ToddHileHoffer

              Businesses do web applications so they don't have to worry about installing the .net framework on the clients. I don't think it is a big deal, but this why it is done that way.

              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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              Shog9 0
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              ToddHileHoffer wrote:

              Businesses do web applications so they don't have to worry about installing the .net framework on the clients.

              Well, yeah, that works. Just like going with a peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich means you don't have to worry about burning the bacon. I guess it beats Java Applets. Or ActiveX...

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                ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                Businesses do web applications so they don't have to worry about installing the .net framework on the clients.

                Well, yeah, that works. Just like going with a peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich means you don't have to worry about burning the bacon. I guess it beats Java Applets. Or ActiveX...

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                Shog9 wrote:

                Just like going with a peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich means you don't have to worry about burning the bacon.

                Do you know the trouble I have trying to get a whatever-and-bacon sandwich in America where the bacon is still soft and chewey???? Everyone wants to turn it into charcoal!

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  Yes, and Java Applets changed the web ... Really unfortunate too, Java Applets had some amazing potential.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                  Java Applets had some amazing potential.

                  Totally agree with this. Java Swing has most futures then, let say, MFC from visual point of view but it’s all web.

                  The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  • S Shelby Robertson

                    I overheard a conversation at the office this morning in which someone claimed to know that ASP.NET is "going away" in favor of Silverlight. Now did i miss an announcement somewhere or did someone at my office get snookered by the Silverlight marketing team?

                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                    Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                    Trollslayer wrote:

                    Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                    Back in 2002 someone told be that VB.net was the future and C# would be phased out.

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                      Shog9 wrote:

                      Just like going with a peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich means you don't have to worry about burning the bacon.

                      Do you know the trouble I have trying to get a whatever-and-bacon sandwich in America where the bacon is still soft and chewey???? Everyone wants to turn it into charcoal!

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                      ian dennis wrote:

                      Everyone wants to turn it into charcoal!

                      Yes, i know. Bitter strips of greasy black stuff. And don't even talk to me about the abomination that is the "bacon press". So i cook it myself. Slowly...

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                        Shelby Robetson wrote:

                        in which someone claimed to know that ASP.NET is "going away" in favor of Silverlight.

                        Why would it? They're not competing technologies :) --edit-- Accidentally someone who predicted that desktop applications would disappear in favor of web-enabled applications?

                        I are Troll :suss:

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                        I think they meant to say that Silverlight is going away because nobody's using it.

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                          Java Applets had some amazing potential.

                          Totally agree with this. Java Swing has most futures then, let say, MFC from visual point of view but it’s all web.

                          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                          Java Swing has most futures then

                          Yes the only problem with it was it was too slow that time and it needed better hardware. I think it should have been released 5 years back, probably it would have took off. Timing is very important for technology.

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                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            Java Swing has most futures then

                            Yes the only problem with it was it was too slow that time and it needed better hardware. I think it should have been released 5 years back, probably it would have took off. Timing is very important for technology.

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                            Yes, and also there were security issues related to this technology.

                            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                              I think they meant to say that Silverlight is going away because nobody's using it.

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                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                              if you use Silverlight for all the cool sound/video/3D graphics, I can see why yo might think it's going away, but if you look at teh socket support, local communication etc, it solves alot of problem associated with business web apps. That said, Asp.Net is still the host and somethings cannot yet be done in Silverlight , so it's not going to replace it, but it's ability to argument it are pretty impressive.

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                                if you use Silverlight for all the cool sound/video/3D graphics, I can see why yo might think it's going away, but if you look at teh socket support, local communication etc, it solves alot of problem associated with business web apps. That said, Asp.Net is still the host and somethings cannot yet be done in Silverlight , so it's not going to replace it, but it's ability to argument it are pretty impressive.

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                                I was being sarcastic.

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                                  I was being sarcastic.

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                                  oops

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    So SilverLight did not replace ASP.NET:)

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                                    ToddHileHoffer
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                                    Well it replaced it for the front end.

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                                    • S Shog9 0

                                      ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                      Businesses do web applications so they don't have to worry about installing the .net framework on the clients.

                                      Well, yeah, that works. Just like going with a peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich means you don't have to worry about burning the bacon. I guess it beats Java Applets. Or ActiveX...

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                                      ToddHileHoffer
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                                      I am at my third job in the last 10 years that only create browser based applications...

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                                        Back in 2002 someone told be that VB.net was the future and C# would be phased out.

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                                        ToddHileHoffer
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                                        Phased out... It was just starting.

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                                          I think they meant to say that Silverlight is going away because nobody's using it.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          Lost User
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          I think they meant to say that Silverlight is going away because nobody's using it.

                                          Yeah, in rather the same way that VB6 has been deprecated :) ..and yes, it seemed like a good idea to ask for arguments that support the claim being made. The technologies do not only noy compete, they also target different platforms. I'd go as far as saying that WinForms, WPF, DirectX, ASP.NET and Silverlight complement each other.

                                          I are Troll :suss:

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