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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    Learn about how the Oath Keepers, a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters, who have sworn to uphold the Constitution and not follow unlawful orders to oppress the American people. Part 1 of 2 (7:27)[^] Part 2 of 2 (8:02)[^]

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    73Zeppelin
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    Why aren't they a partisan organization?

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      Why aren't they a partisan organization?

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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      Why aren't they a partisan organization?

      What purpose would that serve?

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        After reading some history, particularly some of the diary excerpts and letters from British troops and Americans, your comments remind of some of the stupid British. Yet after the war that we won, we rapidly developed into a powerful and wealthy industrial nation leading the way in scientific discoveries and new technology that your country could not achieve. Now we face a similar situation involving your type of mindset.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        Distind
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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        Yet after the war that we won, we rapidly developed into a powerful and wealthy industrial nation leading the way in scientific discoveries and new technology that your country could not achieve.

        Ah, so you never read where I pointed out I am American a while back. But where does this have anything to do with pointing out this is little more than another blob of paranoid drivel. Now, I'm not sure about you, but I wouldn't have to do any swearing by or on anything to refuse to take such actions. Doing so seems to be a pointless exercise in claiming that you'd never, EVER, do any of those horrible things which you think the opposing political party is going to do to everyone despite being horrible. That sound stupid? Good, it was intended to. Because this crap is. This country advanced because of people actually doing things, not pledging they wouldn't do something.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          Yet after the war that we won, we rapidly developed into a powerful and wealthy industrial nation leading the way in scientific discoveries and new technology that your country could not achieve.

          Ah, so you never read where I pointed out I am American a while back. But where does this have anything to do with pointing out this is little more than another blob of paranoid drivel. Now, I'm not sure about you, but I wouldn't have to do any swearing by or on anything to refuse to take such actions. Doing so seems to be a pointless exercise in claiming that you'd never, EVER, do any of those horrible things which you think the opposing political party is going to do to everyone despite being horrible. That sound stupid? Good, it was intended to. Because this crap is. This country advanced because of people actually doing things, not pledging they wouldn't do something.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Distind wrote:

          I am American

          You are not worthy of carrying the title of American, Idiot perhaps, but not American.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          • D Distind

            Probably the gun confiscation after people started shooting at the rescuers because they wanted to be picked up.

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            Christian Graus
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            OK - I notice he didn't even reply. I didn't know about that, but I do wonder if these oathkeepers would have kept their oath if it meant getting shot at ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              73Zeppelin wrote:

              Why aren't they a partisan organization?

              What purpose would that serve?

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              Christian Graus
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              About as much as they serve today ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Distind wrote:

                I am American

                You are not worthy of carrying the title of American, Idiot perhaps, but not American.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                So if you were in charge, he'd be kicked out ? Totalitarianism is OK if it follows your rules ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                  Why aren't they a partisan organization?

                  What purpose would that serve?

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                  Every purpose. I'm surprised you don't already know. Maybe you should look up "non-partisan".

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                    After reading some history, particularly some of the diary excerpts and letters from British troops and Americans, your comments remind of some of the stupid British. Yet after the war that we won, we rapidly developed into a powerful and wealthy industrial nation leading the way in scientific discoveries and new technology that your country could not achieve. Now we face a similar situation involving your type of mindset.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                    Tim Craig
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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    we rapidly developed into a powerful and wealthy industrial nation leading the way in scientific discoveries and new technology

                    Something you'll never make a contribution to. It's people like you that are putting the country in the crapper.

                    You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                      OK - I notice he didn't even reply. I didn't know about that, but I do wonder if these oathkeepers would have kept their oath if it meant getting shot at ?

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      It was a rumor that some idiots shot at a rescue helicopter. If that story was true, then those idiots were criminal in their actions and should have either been shot or arrested. To use that as an excuse to go door to door and forcefully search occupied homes and confiscate the personal property of all citizens is illegal and unnecessary.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                        Every purpose. I'm surprised you don't already know. Maybe you should look up "non-partisan".

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                        In political science, nonpartisan denotes an election, event or organization in which the participants do not declare or do not formally have a political party affiliation. Not partisan; free from party affiliation, bias, or designation.[1] Non-partisan democracy (also no-party democracy) is a system of representative government or organization such that universal and periodic elections take place without reference to political parties. Again, why would they want to be partisan? What purpose would that serve?

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                          About as much as they serve today ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          About as much as they serve today ?

                          About as much as your intelligence serves?

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                            It was a rumor that some idiots shot at a rescue helicopter. If that story was true, then those idiots were criminal in their actions and should have either been shot or arrested. To use that as an excuse to go door to door and forcefully search occupied homes and confiscate the personal property of all citizens is illegal and unnecessary.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            So, in other words, they should have done nothing ? Or, sitting in your armchair, NOT being shot at, you think you can second guess what these people should have done when both their lives and the lives of the people they were trying to rescue, were endangered ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              About as much as they serve today ?

                              About as much as your intelligence serves?

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Are you saying that I am very intelligent, or that the Oath Keepers are useless ? Not sure which interpretation I'd prefer, but both are OK for different reasons.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                So, in other words, they should have done nothing ? Or, sitting in your armchair, NOT being shot at, you think you can second guess what these people should have done when both their lives and the lives of the people they were trying to rescue, were endangered ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                They should have gone after the criminals, instead of illegally seizing the property that rightfully belongs to the people that were bunkered down in their homes for safety as the looters ran wild and shot at rescuers. Its the same old story from you...disarm the innocent, sterilize the good, demonize the moral, and maim the children. End of discussion, go jack off to the thought of billions of dead carbon criminals like you always do.

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                                  They should have gone after the criminals, instead of illegally seizing the property that rightfully belongs to the people that were bunkered down in their homes for safety as the looters ran wild and shot at rescuers. Its the same old story from you...disarm the innocent, sterilize the good, demonize the moral, and maim the children. End of discussion, go jack off to the thought of billions of dead carbon criminals like you always do.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  Its the same old story from you...disarm the innocent, sterilize the good, demonize the moral, and maim the children.

                                  It's the same old story, when you can't answer me, you create a fantasy version of me, putting words in my mouth that I've never said, so you can then knock down the straw man and pretend that you actually replied to me.

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                                  End of discussion, go jack off to the thought of billions of dead carbon criminals like you always do.

                                  Your fantasy life is very disturbing to me. I'm still willing to pay for a psychiatrist to diagnose your obvious issues and give you a road map to mental health.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    Its the same old story from you...disarm the innocent, sterilize the good, demonize the moral, and maim the children.

                                    It's the same old story, when you can't answer me, you create a fantasy version of me, putting words in my mouth that I've never said, so you can then knock down the straw man and pretend that you actually replied to me.

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    End of discussion, go jack off to the thought of billions of dead carbon criminals like you always do.

                                    Your fantasy life is very disturbing to me. I'm still willing to pay for a psychiatrist to diagnose your obvious issues and give you a road map to mental health.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    You are a stupid, stupid straw man. You are the definition of a eugenocidal fallacy of a counterfeit christian.

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                                      You are a stupid, stupid straw man. You are the definition of a eugenocidal fallacy of a counterfeit christian.

                                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                      Eugenicide? The killing of Eugenecists? :suss:

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        Distind wrote:

                                        I am American

                                        You are not worthy of carrying the title of American, Idiot perhaps, but not American.

                                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                        Distind
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                                        Ah, I see. You and Palin can have your 'Real America', I live in New York.

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                                          It was a rumor that some idiots shot at a rescue helicopter. If that story was true, then those idiots were criminal in their actions and should have either been shot or arrested. To use that as an excuse to go door to door and forcefully search occupied homes and confiscate the personal property of all citizens is illegal and unnecessary.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                          Distind
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                                          So what should they have done? They(FEMA) suspended operations a day because of getting shot at. Should they have just let people keep shooting at them? Or do you take the guns out of the hands of the panicked people so that no one else winds up dead?

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