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  • 1 1 21 Gigawatts

    Comments below the line of code? Sure, if you're the sort of person who wears their underpants on top of their trousers.

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    • L Lutoslaw

      A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
      Init();

      However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

      Init();
      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

      Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

      Greetings - Jacek

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      Lost User
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      Above are the Comments for human. :) Below may be for the machine. :rolleyes:

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      • L Lutoslaw

        A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
        Init();

        However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

        Init();
        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

        Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

        Greetings - Jacek

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        peterchen
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        Above for intention, behind for details. In-Method comments should show the intention of the block they are commenting on (instead of repeating what the code says). A reader of the code should be able to skim over the coments to understand the structure of the code. In virtually all cultures title and abstract go before the actual content. Code should be no different.

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        • N Nish Nishant

          If it's a small comment, you could even do this:

          Init(); // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

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          • N Nish Nishant

            If it's a small comment, you could even do this:

            Init(); // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

            Regards, Nish


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            Electron Shepherd
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            Or even better, rename the function so you don't need the comment.

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            • L Lutoslaw

              A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

              // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
              Init();

              However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

              Init();
              // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

              Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

              Greetings - Jacek

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              OriginalGriff
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              Generally, comments have always been written above or on the same line as the code. My objection to having comments below the relevant code is that it would be awkward if it was consistant:

              Init();
              // Init blah de blah

              is fine, but

              private MyClass[] GetMyClassInstances(int count, bool why, string whathaveyou...)
              {
              ... body of long function
              }
              /// GetMyClass does whatever it does
              /// Parameters: whatever they are

              is just asking for trouble!

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              • L Lutoslaw

                A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                Init();

                However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                Init();
                // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                Greetings - Jacek

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                Dalek Dave
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                I agree with the consensus, above. It is easier to read, and tells you what to expect.

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                • L Lutoslaw

                  A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                  // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                  Init();

                  However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                  Init();
                  // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                  Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                  Greetings - Jacek

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                  Russell Jones
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                  What are these green things in your code ;-) Code should be written in such a way that it is self documenting!

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                  • L Lutoslaw

                    A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                    // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                    Init();

                    However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                    Init();
                    // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                    Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                    Greetings - Jacek

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    #15

                    Above or beside. /* And never with those lazy C++-style comments; only use proper C-style comments. */

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                    • L Lutoslaw

                      A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                      Init();

                      However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                      Init();
                      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                      Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                      Greetings - Jacek

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      You may like the Literate Programming[^] approach where the actual code is just a small piece of text embedded into comments.

                      utf8-cpp

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Above or beside. /* And never with those lazy C++-style comments; only use proper C-style comments. */

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                        And never with those lazy C++-style comments

                        In fairness, they are BCPL[^] comments that were for some reason removed in C but reappeared in C++.

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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          And never with those lazy C++-style comments

                          In fairness, they are BCPL[^] comments that were for some reason removed in C but reappeared in C++.

                          utf8-cpp

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Ah, I sit corrected. But B seems to be where it changed. I guess I'll call them B-style comments from now on. Edit: Hmmm... corrected again, the B document says, "Comments are delimited as in PL/I by /* and */." So I guess they're PL/I-style comments.

                          modified on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:36 AM

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                          • L Lutoslaw

                            A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                            // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                            Init();

                            However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                            Init();
                            // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                            Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                            Greetings - Jacek

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Comments are for sissies. ;) Marc

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                            • L Lutoslaw

                              A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                              // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                              Init();

                              However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                              Init();
                              // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                              Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                              Greetings - Jacek

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

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                              • P Pete OHanlon

                                In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

                                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                Rob Graham
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                                There is, however, a need for plain english in comments...especially if the comments are in Plain English.

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                                • P Pete OHanlon

                                  In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

                                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  In Plain English there is no need for comments.

                                  My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    Above or beside. /* And never with those lazy C++-style comments; only use proper C-style comments. */

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                                    Joe Woodbury
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                                    Except you can't enclose a block of code with C (/* */) style comments with a C style comment. One of the dumbest things ever.

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      In Plain English there is no need for comments.

                                      My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

                                      Will work for food. Interacx

                                      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                                      peterchen
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                                      "You botched it", basically, for different values of "it".

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                                      • J Joe Woodbury

                                        Except you can't enclose a block of code with C (/* */) style comments with a C style comment. One of the dumbest things ever.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        That depends on the compiler; you can select it on some:

                                        Borland C++ 5.5 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland
                                        Syntax is: BCC32 [ options ] file[s] * = default; -x- = turn switch x off
                                        -3 * 80386 Instructions -4 80486 Instructions
                                        -5 Pentium Instructions -6 Pentium Pro Instructions
                                        -Ax Disable extensions -B Compile via assembly
                                        -C Allow nested comments -Dxxx Define macro

                                        And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          That depends on the compiler; you can select it on some:

                                          Borland C++ 5.5 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland
                                          Syntax is: BCC32 [ options ] file[s] * = default; -x- = turn switch x off
                                          -3 * 80386 Instructions -4 80486 Instructions
                                          -5 Pentium Instructions -6 Pentium Pro Instructions
                                          -Ax Disable extensions -B Compile via assembly
                                          -C Allow nested comments -Dxxx Define macro

                                          And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

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                                          Joe Woodbury
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                                          I remembered Borland well and used nested comments. VC++ doesn't currently support them (to my knowledge.)

                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

                                          Because they can be nested by a /* */ when you want to temporarily block out some code (and with code highlighting, it becomes really obvious what you did.

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