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  • P Pete OHanlon

    In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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    Rob Graham
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    There is, however, a need for plain english in comments...especially if the comments are in Plain English.

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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      Marc Clifton
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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      In Plain English there is no need for comments.

      My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

      Will work for food. Interacx

      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Above or beside. /* And never with those lazy C++-style comments; only use proper C-style comments. */

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        Joe Woodbury
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        Except you can't enclose a block of code with C (/* */) style comments with a C style comment. One of the dumbest things ever.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          In Plain English there is no need for comments.

          My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

          Will work for food. Interacx

          I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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          peterchen
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          "You botched it", basically, for different values of "it".

          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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          • J Joe Woodbury

            Except you can't enclose a block of code with C (/* */) style comments with a C style comment. One of the dumbest things ever.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            That depends on the compiler; you can select it on some:

            Borland C++ 5.5 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland
            Syntax is: BCC32 [ options ] file[s] * = default; -x- = turn switch x off
            -3 * 80386 Instructions -4 80486 Instructions
            -5 Pentium Instructions -6 Pentium Pro Instructions
            -Ax Disable extensions -B Compile via assembly
            -C Allow nested comments -Dxxx Define macro

            And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              That depends on the compiler; you can select it on some:

              Borland C++ 5.5 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland
              Syntax is: BCC32 [ options ] file[s] * = default; -x- = turn switch x off
              -3 * 80386 Instructions -4 80486 Instructions
              -5 Pentium Instructions -6 Pentium Pro Instructions
              -Ax Disable extensions -B Compile via assembly
              -C Allow nested comments -Dxxx Define macro

              And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

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              Joe Woodbury
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              I remembered Borland well and used nested comments. VC++ doesn't currently support them (to my knowledge.)

              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

              Because they can be nested by a /* */ when you want to temporarily block out some code (and with code highlighting, it becomes really obvious what you did.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                In Plain English there is no need for comments.

                My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

                Will work for food. Interacx

                I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                Pete OHanlon
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                She's speaking Plain English, and we're listening in Penis.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  She's speaking Plain English, and we're listening in Penis.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  She's speaking Plain English, and we're listening in Penis.

                  :laugh: :-O Marc

                  Will work for food. Interacx

                  I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                  • L Lutoslaw

                    A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                    // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                    Init();

                    However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                    Init();
                    // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                    Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                    Greetings - Jacek

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    Everyone, for ever, has placed it above. Let's just stick to the accepted pattern and move along.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    • L Lutoslaw

                      A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                      Init();

                      However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                      Init();
                      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                      Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                      Greetings - Jacek

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                      ian dennis 0
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                      I used to comment my procedures after the procedure name, like: Function DoIt(thingie as string) as Boolean '*======== '* Purpose: Do it '* Mod1 : and do it now '* Accepts: Thingie (What you're going to do it to) '* Returns: True if did it, else False '* Author : Ian Dennis based on code provided by Steve Smith '* Date : 01/02/2009 '* Mod1 : 02/10/2009 ... but I've noticed that both VB.Net and C# make use of XML comments, which happen before the procedure name, like: ''' <summary> ''' Do It and do it now ''' </summary> ''' <param name="thingie">What you're going to do it to</param> ''' <returns>True if done, else False</returns> Function DoIt(thingie as string) as Boolean As the XML helps with intellisense, I've started switching to that format

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                      • L Lutoslaw

                        A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                        Init();

                        However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                        Init();
                        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                        Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                        Greetings - Jacek

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                        Kyudos
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                        Doesn't (didn't?) AutoDuck use comments under the line?

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                        • J Joe Woodbury

                          I remembered Borland well and used nested comments. VC++ doesn't currently support them (to my knowledge.)

                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

                          Because they can be nested by a /* */ when you want to temporarily block out some code (and with code highlighting, it becomes really obvious what you did.

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                          Naruki 0
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                          But if you had malformed comments that included the open or the close trigger as regular text, that could get ugly fast.

                          Narf.

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                            But if you had malformed comments that included the open or the close trigger as regular text, that could get ugly fast.

                            Narf.

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                            Joe Woodbury
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                            Never had that.

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                            • J Joe Woodbury

                              Never had that.

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                              Naruki 0
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                              Never is an absolute, so the chances are you are wrong. Eventually. :-)

                              Narf.

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                                Never is an absolute, so the chances are you are wrong. Eventually. :-)

                                Narf.

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                I was speaking past tense. Henceforth, I will never use comments and therefore never see this. :)

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                                • L Lutoslaw

                                  A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                                  // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                                  Init();

                                  However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                                  Init();
                                  // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                                  Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                                  Greetings - Jacek

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                                  Schmuli
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                                  As almost everyone has replied previously, generally comments appear above the code or inline. In the world of academia, where real-world applications, programming teams and programmers are sparse to non-existent, you may find lots of things that are different to what really goes out in the real-world. That being said, although I may be wrong, there is one time when I will put a comment after the line of code, and that is in the case of 'else'.

                                  // This explains what will happen when 'condition' is true
                                  if( true )
                                  {
                                  ...
                                  }
                                  else
                                  {
                                  // This explains what happens in other cases
                                  }

                                  I'm not sure what others do in this case, but then again, it is very specific, only appears inside a function block, and is pretty clear when reading the code.

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                                  • L Lutoslaw

                                    A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                                    // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                                    Init();

                                    However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                                    Init();
                                    // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                                    Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                                    Greetings - Jacek

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                                    Jakob Olsen
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                                    Don't comment that line.... :laugh: Rename the function to InitArrayOfPoints() instead

                                    Bitmatic - C# & .NET programming

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                                    • L Lutoslaw

                                      A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                                      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                                      Init();

                                      However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                                      Init();
                                      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                                      Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                                      Greetings - Jacek

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                                      Anton Afanasyev
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                                      I can see why things like this may be done - the programemr first writes code, then comments it. This may (theoretically) benefit the original programmer in that the code is fresh in his memory, and writing a comment to reflect what it does may "force" him to spot subtle errors. (Of course, same can be said about the traditional "above"-style commenting, but I think the "below"-style makes sense here). I think the "below" style would also benefit a new programmer trying to understand or debug the code - she reads the code, understands (hopefully) it, and then reads the intention - if they dont match, well, there's clearly a problem with the code. How's that for a possible "why?" ?

                                      "Impossible" is just an opinion.

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                                      • L Lutoslaw

                                        A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                                        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                                        Init();

                                        However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                                        Init();
                                        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                                        Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                                        Greetings - Jacek

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                                        User 4483848
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                                        At university I was always told that comments should go before the code rather than after. It's the way our brains work, top to bottom, left to right. Comments below the line is just weird, and looks weird. The comment looks far too wordy though. Surely 'initializes points' is enough. If it was me I would do InitPoints(); or maybe just Init(); if it was a small application. The function name is enough to guess what it does.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Generally, comments have always been written above or on the same line as the code. My objection to having comments below the relevant code is that it would be awkward if it was consistant:

                                          Init();
                                          // Init blah de blah

                                          is fine, but

                                          private MyClass[] GetMyClassInstances(int count, bool why, string whathaveyou...)
                                          {
                                          ... body of long function
                                          }
                                          /// GetMyClass does whatever it does
                                          /// Parameters: whatever they are

                                          is just asking for trouble!

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                                          dmpthekiller
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                                          Hahahaha... Totally agree!!! Comments above or on the same line (if it's a very simple comment)... Edit: And what about useless comments???... Have you ever wrote those???... Like: // Check if a > b if (a > b) { (...) } Hahahaha... It seems too stupid, but I must confess I've done it a couple of times...

                                          modified on Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:49 AM

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