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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    And never with those lazy C++-style comments

    In fairness, they are BCPL[^] comments that were for some reason removed in C but reappeared in C++.

    utf8-cpp

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Ah, I sit corrected. But B seems to be where it changed. I guess I'll call them B-style comments from now on. Edit: Hmmm... corrected again, the B document says, "Comments are delimited as in PL/I by /* and */." So I guess they're PL/I-style comments.

    modified on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:36 AM

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    • L Lutoslaw

      A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
      Init();

      However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

      Init();
      // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

      Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

      Greetings - Jacek

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      Marc Clifton
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      Comments are for sissies. ;) Marc

      Will work for food. Interacx

      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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      • L Lutoslaw

        A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
        Init();

        However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

        Init();
        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

        Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

        Greetings - Jacek

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        Pete OHanlon
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        In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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          Rob Graham
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          There is, however, a need for plain english in comments...especially if the comments are in Plain English.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            In Plain English there is no need for comments. The longer term residents of the lounge will get this one, while newer members should Google for osmosian.

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            Marc Clifton
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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            In Plain English there is no need for comments.

            My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

            Will work for food. Interacx

            I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Above or beside. /* And never with those lazy C++-style comments; only use proper C-style comments. */

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              Joe Woodbury
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              Except you can't enclose a block of code with C (/* */) style comments with a C style comment. One of the dumbest things ever.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                In Plain English there is no need for comments.

                My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

                Will work for food. Interacx

                I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                peterchen
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                "You botched it", basically, for different values of "it".

                Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                • J Joe Woodbury

                  Except you can't enclose a block of code with C (/* */) style comments with a C style comment. One of the dumbest things ever.

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  That depends on the compiler; you can select it on some:

                  Borland C++ 5.5 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland
                  Syntax is: BCC32 [ options ] file[s] * = default; -x- = turn switch x off
                  -3 * 80386 Instructions -4 80486 Instructions
                  -5 Pentium Instructions -6 Pentium Pro Instructions
                  -Ax Disable extensions -B Compile via assembly
                  -C Allow nested comments -Dxxx Define macro

                  And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    That depends on the compiler; you can select it on some:

                    Borland C++ 5.5 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland
                    Syntax is: BCC32 [ options ] file[s] * = default; -x- = turn switch x off
                    -3 * 80386 Instructions -4 80486 Instructions
                    -5 Pentium Instructions -6 Pentium Pro Instructions
                    -Ax Disable extensions -B Compile via assembly
                    -C Allow nested comments -Dxxx Define macro

                    And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    I remembered Borland well and used nested comments. VC++ doesn't currently support them (to my knowledge.)

                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

                    Because they can be nested by a /* */ when you want to temporarily block out some code (and with code highlighting, it becomes really obvious what you did.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      In Plain English there is no need for comments.

                      My gf claims to speak to me in Plain English, but I still can't figure out what she's saying. ;) Marc

                      Will work for food. Interacx

                      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      She's speaking Plain English, and we're listening in Penis.

                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        She's speaking Plain English, and we're listening in Penis.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        She's speaking Plain English, and we're listening in Penis.

                        :laugh: :-O Marc

                        Will work for food. Interacx

                        I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                        • L Lutoslaw

                          A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                          // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                          Init();

                          However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                          Init();
                          // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                          Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                          Greetings - Jacek

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          Everyone, for ever, has placed it above. Let's just stick to the accepted pattern and move along.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          • L Lutoslaw

                            A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                            // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                            Init();

                            However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                            Init();
                            // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                            Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                            Greetings - Jacek

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                            ian dennis 0
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                            I used to comment my procedures after the procedure name, like: Function DoIt(thingie as string) as Boolean '*======== '* Purpose: Do it '* Mod1 : and do it now '* Accepts: Thingie (What you're going to do it to) '* Returns: True if did it, else False '* Author : Ian Dennis based on code provided by Steve Smith '* Date : 01/02/2009 '* Mod1 : 02/10/2009 ... but I've noticed that both VB.Net and C# make use of XML comments, which happen before the procedure name, like: ''' <summary> ''' Do It and do it now ''' </summary> ''' <param name="thingie">What you're going to do it to</param> ''' <returns>True if done, else False</returns> Function DoIt(thingie as string) as Boolean As the XML helps with intellisense, I've started switching to that format

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                            • L Lutoslaw

                              A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                              // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                              Init();

                              However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                              Init();
                              // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                              Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                              Greetings - Jacek

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                              Kyudos
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                              Doesn't (didn't?) AutoDuck use comments under the line?

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                              • J Joe Woodbury

                                I remembered Borland well and used nested comments. VC++ doesn't currently support them (to my knowledge.)

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                And anyway, how would the other style help with that?

                                Because they can be nested by a /* */ when you want to temporarily block out some code (and with code highlighting, it becomes really obvious what you did.

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                                Naruki 0
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                                But if you had malformed comments that included the open or the close trigger as regular text, that could get ugly fast.

                                Narf.

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                                • N Naruki 0

                                  But if you had malformed comments that included the open or the close trigger as regular text, that could get ugly fast.

                                  Narf.

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                                  Joe Woodbury
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                                  Never had that.

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                                  • J Joe Woodbury

                                    Never had that.

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                                    Naruki 0
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                                    Never is an absolute, so the chances are you are wrong. Eventually. :-)

                                    Narf.

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                                    • N Naruki 0

                                      Never is an absolute, so the chances are you are wrong. Eventually. :-)

                                      Narf.

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                                      Joe Woodbury
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                                      I was speaking past tense. Henceforth, I will never use comments and therefore never see this. :)

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                                      • L Lutoslaw

                                        A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                                        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                                        Init();

                                        However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                                        Init();
                                        // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                                        Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                                        Greetings - Jacek

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                                        Schmuli
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                                        As almost everyone has replied previously, generally comments appear above the code or inline. In the world of academia, where real-world applications, programming teams and programmers are sparse to non-existent, you may find lots of things that are different to what really goes out in the real-world. That being said, although I may be wrong, there is one time when I will put a comment after the line of code, and that is in the case of 'else'.

                                        // This explains what will happen when 'condition' is true
                                        if( true )
                                        {
                                        ...
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                        // This explains what happens in other cases
                                        }

                                        I'm not sure what others do in this case, but then again, it is very specific, only appears inside a function block, and is pretty clear when reading the code.

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                                        • L Lutoslaw

                                          A programmingcommenting question. I have been writing commentaries above a related line of code, like this:

                                          // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points
                                          Init();

                                          However, I have seen a big sample of code written by one of my professors recently. The commentaries was placed below a line.

                                          Init();
                                          // The Init() method we call here initializes an array of points

                                          Sincerely, I have found it very clear and understable. Did anybody encounter such approach to commenting code? Is it recommended?

                                          Greetings - Jacek

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                                          Jakob Olsen
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                                          Don't comment that line.... :laugh: Rename the function to InitArrayOfPoints() instead

                                          Bitmatic - C# & .NET programming

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