64bit or 32bit for new desktop?

Anthony Mushrow

I don't think you need to do anything special. I'm on 64-bit and in visual studio 2008 by default it will be compiling 32-bit applications so you shouldn't have any problems there. I've yet to go and find out how to create 64-bit versions myself, but I imaging it's just a few settings here and there. One problem I have noticed is that when debugging a 32-bit application, in some situations visual studio will not trigger a breakpoint for some exceptions like Access Violation - it will say "First chance exception...." in the output window but other than that the thing will carry on, and usually lock up a little later in one of the windows DLL's. If anybody knows anything about that I'd appreciate any help.

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I tried 64 bit XP a while back. Having a Sharp printer I tried to print. Everthing else was great. Faster better more reliable, but I had to downgrade to 32bit because Sharp just don't do a 64 bit driver for my printer and when I contacted them said they never will. Bit of an issue when you can't print. But most newer printers come with 64bit drivers I guess.

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CaptainSeeSharp · modified on Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:09 AM

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly

What do you think of the 10mm?

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RichardM1

I have an XP64 quad AMD system with 8 GB. I run the main system as 64 bit, and, for developement, I run a number of XP 32 bit systems for testing and, sometimes, development. I have a dedicated oracle server VM, IIS server VM and the application client box VM. I am able to run them all without impacting each other. I use MS VPC, but I am not so sure it is better than Sun's Virtual Box. I have not used VMWare. VPC does not allow sharing USB, and VBox does. I don't know about VMWare. If you have not used VMs, they are amazingly easy to setup and operate, provide excellent isolation from each other, both for software isolation and CPU load isolation. The only issue is that, for both VPC and VBox, they only use one CPU (at least in the versions I have). VS2008 can built 64 bit apps, but is not true 64 bit itself. Whether it builds 32 or 64 bit apps is dependent on the project settings, not the machine it is running on. You can build 32 on a 64 machine and vice versa.

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Not as good as 12.7, but guns based on it are kind of unwieldy for in home us, not to mention over-penetration. Complaints from the neighbors 4 blocks over, in a dense townhouse development. I'm .357 and 9mm myself, but that has as much to do with sunk cost and inherited firearms as anything else.

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realJSOP

9mm and 10mm are for euro-trash weenies that don't care about actually stopping a threat. The round does absolutely no good if it goes completely through center mass.

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CaptainSeeSharp

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

9mm and 10mm are for euro-trash weenies that don't care about actually stopping a threat.

I can agree with the 9mm being a non-stopper, but 10mm is ~.40cal with more powder. I've never shot a 10mm before but from what I have read it has the power of a 41 magnum round.

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AspDotNetDev

RichardM1 wrote:

they only use one CPU

You mean each VM can only make use of one of your processors (even if you have a quad core) at a time, or that it can uses all your processors, but only presents them in the VM as one?

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realJSOP

10mm is a cartridge looking for a reason to exist. For that matter, the same can be said for the .40S&W, and the .45 GAP. Truth be told, 10mm exists because the eurotrash don't like saying the word "caliber" (as in ".40 caliber"). The reason the 9mm has gained so much popularity is that the ammo is a lot less expensive (2/3 the price) than .45 ACP.

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Snowman58

All desktop CPU's available today are capable of either 32 or 64 bit operation. So your question is more properly which OS/software environment do you want? 64 bit is still plagued by driver and compatibility issues, which one would have thought would have been solved by now. But they still exist. Much of the application software sold as 64 bit, is simply 32 bit recompiled and not optimized for 64 bit. I have read that in some cases it actually runs slower. If you are planning on a general usage machine, I would suggest a 32 bit OS and use something like VMware for 64 bit development. If you have a narrow focus for the usage and can test the various drivers and software, than go for 64 bit.

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RichardM1

Each VM can only uses one CPU, but I believe each VM can have its own CPU. 2 VMs on a quad core machine do not share a CPU.

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