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    Derek Lakin
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    It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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      It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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      Tom Deketelaere
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      Perhaps add a warning to the license part of the article I imagine most to assume that the article is free for all use since there is no license attached to it. I know I know they should still ask, and the text suggests it, and you said so in one post already in the discussion board but people tend to not listen to much ;P . If you add it to the license agreement section there can be no discussion about reading the discussion or not. As to your question itself, I guess it all depends on how far you want to take this. If you don't intend to take them to the courts if needed your probably not going to get anything. (All depends of course on the size of the offending company)

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        It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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        J4amieC
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        For what it will cost you to enforce, i'd say don't bother. Just as there are certain cultures in the world where it is acceptable to expect code to be handed to you on a plate, there are other cultures which have no qualms about theft of IP. If you don't want your code stolen, don't publish it on the net. Simples.

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          It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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          The Man from U N C L E
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          Definately attach one of the code project licences[^] to the article to dissuade people in the future, however you are probably stuck as far as these guys are concerned unless you are prepared for a court battle. Of course if they come asking for bug fixes etc. you don't want to help them. Nice article by the way.

          If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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            Definately attach one of the code project licences[^] to the article to dissuade people in the future, however you are probably stuck as far as these guys are concerned unless you are prepared for a court battle. Of course if they come asking for bug fixes etc. you don't want to help them. Nice article by the way.

            If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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            Derek Lakin
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            Thanks for everyone's responses. It's pretty much what I expected, but I was intrigued to see what people would say :) If there was a CP license choice that prevented use in commercial software, then I'd have selected it a long time ago. To be honest, I may just make it available to anyone anyway. It's such a long time since I wrote the article, so much has changed since. To be honest, I'm surprised anyone still finds it useful ;P

            The Man from U.N.C.L.E. wrote:

            Nice article by the way.

            Thanks :)

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            • D Derek Lakin

              It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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              Douglas Troy
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              Post this in the suggestion board, Chris has dealt with this kind of thing before, he might have suggestions or even an answer.


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              • D Derek Lakin

                Thanks for everyone's responses. It's pretty much what I expected, but I was intrigued to see what people would say :) If there was a CP license choice that prevented use in commercial software, then I'd have selected it a long time ago. To be honest, I may just make it available to anyone anyway. It's such a long time since I wrote the article, so much has changed since. To be honest, I'm surprised anyone still finds it useful ;P

                The Man from U.N.C.L.E. wrote:

                Nice article by the way.

                Thanks :)

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                Rozis
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                My suggestion: Dont go to court in Russia, it only cost money. Write them an email. Make the language so that it looks as written from a lawer. With some luck they get afraid...

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                  My suggestion: Dont go to court in Russia, it only cost money. Write them an email. Make the language so that it looks as written from a lawer. With some luck they get afraid...

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                  Lost User
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                  Rozis wrote:

                  With some luck they get afraid.

                  More likely they send some big men to your house! :((

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                  • D Derek Lakin

                    Thanks for everyone's responses. It's pretty much what I expected, but I was intrigued to see what people would say :) If there was a CP license choice that prevented use in commercial software, then I'd have selected it a long time ago. To be honest, I may just make it available to anyone anyway. It's such a long time since I wrote the article, so much has changed since. To be honest, I'm surprised anyone still finds it useful ;P

                    The Man from U.N.C.L.E. wrote:

                    Nice article by the way.

                    Thanks :)

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                    Tom Deketelaere
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                    Derek Lakin wrote:

                    If there was a CP license choice that prevented use in commercial software, then I'd have selected it a long time ago.

                    A simple line in the license section along the line of:

                    The code is free for use for all NON-commercial purposes, if you want to use it for commercial purpose please contact me.

                    That would pretty much make it clear what you want (I think)

                    Derek Lakin wrote:

                    I'm surprised anyone still finds it useful

                    I'm surprised people still start new projects in VB6, but it happens, trust me it does.

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                    • D Derek Lakin

                      It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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                      Derek Lakin
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                      Thanks for everyone's comments/suggestions. On reflection, I've decided to make the code available under the Code Project Open License. Cheers, Derek.

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                      • D Derek Lakin

                        It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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                        J Dunlap
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                        Been a long time since we last talked! How has life been treating you lately?

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                        • D Derek Lakin

                          It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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                          bryce
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                          you're not the first , Kazaa (remember that?) used a fair amount of codeproject stuff Bryce

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                            It's come to my attention that some code that I wrote and published here free for personal or non-profit use (my [Collapsible Panel Bar]) is being used in a commercial software product in Russia. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? My first thoughts would be to email them and remind them of the licensing restrictions and see what happens. Cheers, Derek.

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Really, you shouldn't publish code that you don't want "stolen". Many people will respect your license, but some just won't. That's a fact that will never change.

                            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                              My suggestion: Dont go to court in Russia, it only cost money. Write them an email. Make the language so that it looks as written from a lawer. With some luck they get afraid...

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                              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                              Rozis wrote:

                              Dont go to court in Russia, it only cost money.

                              Isn't it rightly said out somewhere by someone in a novel "The law is an ass". :rolleyes:

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