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    l a u r e n
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    you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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      you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

      "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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      Christian Graus
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      Wow - that's older than me then.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

        "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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        Dan Neely
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        Can we go back to even older stuff? Borland Turbo Pascal's online help in Turbo Pascal was great. I learned most of the provided frameworkish features and advanced language features that way. The only thing I didn't understand from it was the concept of overloading base class methods in objects; I ended up reinventing the wheel there via function pointers. :doh:

        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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          you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

          "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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          Corporal Agarn
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          Gee do you also remember one directory for each program?

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            you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

            "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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            Brady Kelly
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            I was just joking about getting old, when the kids playing outside my window start getting scared and avoiding the area around my office window, because of the swearing and funny noises from within. Eventually lore arises, and even kids that haven't heard me are sacred of 'the guy in no. 80'. Eventually one brave, social outcast of a kid tenderly approaches my open front door, and is tripped down the rabbit hole into the world of 'software development', ta-daaah!

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              you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

              "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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              Lost User
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              I don't remember MSDN being helpful. Does it mean I am young ?

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                you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                The Transact SQL bit is useful, about the only chunk I've ever found useful, it beats lugging a book on the subject around when I need some random arcane definition.

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                  you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                  "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                  Dan_Martin
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                  Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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                    you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Apparently, Google have pay the MSDN team salary. It's a conspiracy to drive you to Google.

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                      you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                      "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      I'm 40 and I'm not that old. :laugh:

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                        The Transact SQL bit is useful, about the only chunk I've ever found useful, it beats lugging a book on the subject around when I need some random arcane definition.

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                        Brady Kelly
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                        Funny that's the only one I ever install.

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                          Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          The secret to staying young is recognising all the things that get better that in the past.

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                            you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                            "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                            Tomas Brennan
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                            you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

                            #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                              you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

                              #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                              John M Drescher
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                              I remember using that for years. Although I can not remember exactly its purpose other than it was a TSR that was active under dos applications. I remember this got me interested in writing my own TSRs as well.

                              John

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                                I don't remember MSDN being helpful. Does it mean I am young ?

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                                John M Drescher
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                                For the 12.5 years that I have used it the problem has only gotten worse. Before that I programmed mostly on unix machines at the university and using borland products on the pc. Or even earlier commodore basic/asm. For these the help was printed in manuals..

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                                  I remember using that for years. Although I can not remember exactly its purpose other than it was a TSR that was active under dos applications. I remember this got me interested in writing my own TSRs as well.

                                  John

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                                  yeah... I still have the code lying on my machine somewhere, to trap the three finger salute using a TSR program. It was good fun... :-D

                                  #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                                    you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                                    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                                    When you see old films (!) about computers and recognise the 8" Drives! When you remember thinking "Hmm, A Mouse? How is that going to be useful?" When 'Proper' Computers Beeped and showed a blank screen except for "C:\>" When RAM was measured in K, even on Mainframes! When people around you were programming in ALGOL, COBOL and PASCAL. When you wandered around school fiddling with a 5 1/4" floppy and you thought this gave you kudos!

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                                      For the 12.5 years that I have used it the problem has only gotten worse. Before that I programmed mostly on unix machines at the university and using borland products on the pc. Or even earlier commodore basic/asm. For these the help was printed in manuals..

                                      John

                                      modified on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:28 AM

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                                      Or man pages, to only be climbed with a serious safety kit and good belaying by Chuck Norris.

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                                        Wow - that's older than me then.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        josda1000
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                                        agreed. i've never known microsoft to be helpful at all in the first place... except excel i guess. word sucks, windows usually sucks, outlook is terrible... ok i'm done whining.

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                                          Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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                                          Heh :) - but nay, those days actually did exist.

                                          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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