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  • L l a u r e n

    you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Apparently, Google have pay the MSDN team salary. It's a conspiracy to drive you to Google.

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    • L l a u r e n

      you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

      "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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      Brady Kelly
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      I'm 40 and I'm not that old. :laugh:

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      • D Distind

        The Transact SQL bit is useful, about the only chunk I've ever found useful, it beats lugging a book on the subject around when I need some random arcane definition.

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        Brady Kelly
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        Funny that's the only one I ever install.

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        • D Dan_Martin

          Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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          Brady Kelly
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          The secret to staying young is recognising all the things that get better that in the past.

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          • L l a u r e n

            you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

            "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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            Tomas Brennan
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            you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

            #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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              you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

              #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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              John M Drescher
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              I remember using that for years. Although I can not remember exactly its purpose other than it was a TSR that was active under dos applications. I remember this got me interested in writing my own TSRs as well.

              John

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              • L Lost User

                I don't remember MSDN being helpful. Does it mean I am young ?

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                John M Drescher
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                For the 12.5 years that I have used it the problem has only gotten worse. Before that I programmed mostly on unix machines at the university and using borland products on the pc. Or even earlier commodore basic/asm. For these the help was printed in manuals..

                John

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                  I remember using that for years. Although I can not remember exactly its purpose other than it was a TSR that was active under dos applications. I remember this got me interested in writing my own TSRs as well.

                  John

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                  Tomas Brennan
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                  yeah... I still have the code lying on my machine somewhere, to trap the three finger salute using a TSR program. It was good fun... :-D

                  #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                  • L l a u r e n

                    you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    When you see old films (!) about computers and recognise the 8" Drives! When you remember thinking "Hmm, A Mouse? How is that going to be useful?" When 'Proper' Computers Beeped and showed a blank screen except for "C:\>" When RAM was measured in K, even on Mainframes! When people around you were programming in ALGOL, COBOL and PASCAL. When you wandered around school fiddling with a 5 1/4" floppy and you thought this gave you kudos!

                    ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                      For the 12.5 years that I have used it the problem has only gotten worse. Before that I programmed mostly on unix machines at the university and using borland products on the pc. Or even earlier commodore basic/asm. For these the help was printed in manuals..

                      John

                      modified on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:28 AM

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      Or man pages, to only be climbed with a serious safety kit and good belaying by Chuck Norris.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Wow - that's older than me then.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        josda1000
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                        agreed. i've never known microsoft to be helpful at all in the first place... except excel i guess. word sucks, windows usually sucks, outlook is terrible... ok i'm done whining.

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                        • D Dan_Martin

                          Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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                          peterchen
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                          Heh :) - but nay, those days actually did exist.

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                            Wow - that's older than me then.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Wow - that's older than me then.

                            So older than dirt then, right? ;P


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                              you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

                              #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              oops, I'll leave now before anyone notices me... :suss:

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                              • L Lost User

                                I don't remember MSDN being helpful. Does it mean I am young ?

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Dunno. I never have recalled it being particularly useful. If 28 counts as young probably depends on if you're looking from 18 or 38. ;p

                                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  yeah... I still have the code lying on my machine somewhere, to trap the three finger salute using a TSR program. It was good fun... :-D

                                  #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Assuming it hasn't died in my junkbox I've still got my 486's HD. It had TSRs for a 255 character keyboard buffer and an in app keystroke handler replacement that would accept multiple simultaneous keystrokes in a DOS app. I wonder if it still works in current versions of windows; for NT4 (3.51????) compatibility I had to remove the caps lock/etc light toggling feature.

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    Dunno. I never have recalled it being particularly useful. If 28 counts as young probably depends on if you're looking from 18 or 38. ;p

                                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    From 38 it looks less young that it looks old from 18. Years mean more as you mature, more and more meaningful stuff happens to older and older people. (Besides getting laid for the first time etc. )

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                                      Assuming it hasn't died in my junkbox I've still got my 486's HD. It had TSRs for a 255 character keyboard buffer and an in app keystroke handler replacement that would accept multiple simultaneous keystrokes in a DOS app. I wonder if it still works in current versions of windows; for NT4 (3.51????) compatibility I had to remove the caps lock/etc light toggling feature.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      It might not for >= Win 7 (including cousin Vista). I say this without experience, but 7 was where MS first started making major breaks from NT.

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                                        When you see old films (!) about computers and recognise the 8" Drives! When you remember thinking "Hmm, A Mouse? How is that going to be useful?" When 'Proper' Computers Beeped and showed a blank screen except for "C:\>" When RAM was measured in K, even on Mainframes! When people around you were programming in ALGOL, COBOL and PASCAL. When you wandered around school fiddling with a 5 1/4" floppy and you thought this gave you kudos!

                                        ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                                        rollei35guy
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                                        Proper computers: - had flashing lights, preferably in HEX - Memory was itty bitty magnetic donuts - Input was punch cards - Interactive access was by Teletype ASR33 (if you were fortunate) - Storage was on a drum - Really fast storage was 'head-per-track' And you are really really old if you: - Know what a card sorter is AND knew how to program the punch panel I suddenly feel very tired ...

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                                        • L l a u r e n

                                          you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                                          "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                                          Member 96
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                                          You know you're getting old when you remember fondly how nice the Borland C++ docs were.


                                          "Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg

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