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  • D Dan_Martin

    Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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    Brady Kelly
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    The secret to staying young is recognising all the things that get better that in the past.

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    • T Tomas Brennan

      you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

      #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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      John M Drescher
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      I remember using that for years. Although I can not remember exactly its purpose other than it was a TSR that was active under dos applications. I remember this got me interested in writing my own TSRs as well.

      John

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      • L Lost User

        I don't remember MSDN being helpful. Does it mean I am young ?

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        John M Drescher
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        For the 12.5 years that I have used it the problem has only gotten worse. Before that I programmed mostly on unix machines at the university and using borland products on the pc. Or even earlier commodore basic/asm. For these the help was printed in manuals..

        John

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        • J John M Drescher

          I remember using that for years. Although I can not remember exactly its purpose other than it was a TSR that was active under dos applications. I remember this got me interested in writing my own TSRs as well.

          John

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          Tomas Brennan
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          yeah... I still have the code lying on my machine somewhere, to trap the three finger salute using a TSR program. It was good fun... :-D

          #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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          • L l a u r e n

            you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

            "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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            When you see old films (!) about computers and recognise the 8" Drives! When you remember thinking "Hmm, A Mouse? How is that going to be useful?" When 'Proper' Computers Beeped and showed a blank screen except for "C:\>" When RAM was measured in K, even on Mainframes! When people around you were programming in ALGOL, COBOL and PASCAL. When you wandered around school fiddling with a 5 1/4" floppy and you thought this gave you kudos!

            ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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            • J John M Drescher

              For the 12.5 years that I have used it the problem has only gotten worse. Before that I programmed mostly on unix machines at the university and using borland products on the pc. Or even earlier commodore basic/asm. For these the help was printed in manuals..

              John

              modified on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:28 AM

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              Brady Kelly
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              Or man pages, to only be climbed with a serious safety kit and good belaying by Chuck Norris.

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              • C Christian Graus

                Wow - that's older than me then.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                josda1000
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                agreed. i've never known microsoft to be helpful at all in the first place... except excel i guess. word sucks, windows usually sucks, outlook is terrible... ok i'm done whining.

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                • D Dan_Martin

                  Those days never really existed but it's certainly a sign of old age when you start remembering things in the past being much better than they actually were!

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                  peterchen
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                  Heh :) - but nay, those days actually did exist.

                  Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Wow - that's older than me then.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Douglas Troy
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Wow - that's older than me then.

                    So older than dirt then, right? ;P


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                    • T Tomas Brennan

                      you can remember Borland's Sidekick? The infamous TSR program....?? :-D and using the three finger salute to start again and anew! :)

                      #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      oops, I'll leave now before anyone notices me... :suss:

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                      • L Lost User

                        I don't remember MSDN being helpful. Does it mean I am young ?

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                        Dan Neely
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                        Dunno. I never have recalled it being particularly useful. If 28 counts as young probably depends on if you're looking from 18 or 38. ;p

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        • T Tomas Brennan

                          yeah... I still have the code lying on my machine somewhere, to trap the three finger salute using a TSR program. It was good fun... :-D

                          #define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif

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                          Dan Neely
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                          Assuming it hasn't died in my junkbox I've still got my 486's HD. It had TSRs for a 255 character keyboard buffer and an in app keystroke handler replacement that would accept multiple simultaneous keystrokes in a DOS app. I wonder if it still works in current versions of windows; for NT4 (3.51????) compatibility I had to remove the caps lock/etc light toggling feature.

                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                          • D Dan Neely

                            Dunno. I never have recalled it being particularly useful. If 28 counts as young probably depends on if you're looking from 18 or 38. ;p

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            From 38 it looks less young that it looks old from 18. Years mean more as you mature, more and more meaningful stuff happens to older and older people. (Besides getting laid for the first time etc. )

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                            • D Dan Neely

                              Assuming it hasn't died in my junkbox I've still got my 486's HD. It had TSRs for a 255 character keyboard buffer and an in app keystroke handler replacement that would accept multiple simultaneous keystrokes in a DOS app. I wonder if it still works in current versions of windows; for NT4 (3.51????) compatibility I had to remove the caps lock/etc light toggling feature.

                              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              It might not for >= Win 7 (including cousin Vista). I say this without experience, but 7 was where MS first started making major breaks from NT.

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                When you see old films (!) about computers and recognise the 8" Drives! When you remember thinking "Hmm, A Mouse? How is that going to be useful?" When 'Proper' Computers Beeped and showed a blank screen except for "C:\>" When RAM was measured in K, even on Mainframes! When people around you were programming in ALGOL, COBOL and PASCAL. When you wandered around school fiddling with a 5 1/4" floppy and you thought this gave you kudos!

                                ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                                Proper computers: - had flashing lights, preferably in HEX - Memory was itty bitty magnetic donuts - Input was punch cards - Interactive access was by Teletype ASR33 (if you were fortunate) - Storage was on a drum - Really fast storage was 'head-per-track' And you are really really old if you: - Know what a card sorter is AND knew how to program the punch panel I suddenly feel very tired ...

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                                • L l a u r e n

                                  you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                                  "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                                  You know you're getting old when you remember fondly how nice the Borland C++ docs were.


                                  "Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    When you see old films (!) about computers and recognise the 8" Drives! When you remember thinking "Hmm, A Mouse? How is that going to be useful?" When 'Proper' Computers Beeped and showed a blank screen except for "C:\>" When RAM was measured in K, even on Mainframes! When people around you were programming in ALGOL, COBOL and PASCAL. When you wandered around school fiddling with a 5 1/4" floppy and you thought this gave you kudos!

                                    ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    A floppy? Stevie Wonder records were the only floppy disks in my school. You were young. I remember when walking around with a packet of Goloise plain got you some kudos.

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                                    • R rollei35guy

                                      Proper computers: - had flashing lights, preferably in HEX - Memory was itty bitty magnetic donuts - Input was punch cards - Interactive access was by Teletype ASR33 (if you were fortunate) - Storage was on a drum - Really fast storage was 'head-per-track' And you are really really old if you: - Know what a card sorter is AND knew how to program the punch panel I suddenly feel very tired ...

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      rollei35guy wrote:

                                      - Interactive access was by Teletype ASR33 (if you were fortunate)

                                      I used to man an HF based, 50 baud link between Antarctica and Pretoria (via SA Air Force, my bit). My 'chat' was over T100 telext machines with Elmux error correction. As I reminisced here last night, sometimes we got as slow as tens of seconds between two characters. Sometimes we resorted to Q-code, blindly sending QSY, QSY. HF is interesting; operating frequencies drop from upper 20's MHz, to lower 5's (scuse the pun, radio people :)) at night.

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                                      • L l a u r e n

                                        you can remember when msdn help was actually... you know... helpful *mutters obscenities as she takes it out back to put it out of her misery...*

                                        "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Wow! You're way older than I thought! ;P

                                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                        • R rollei35guy

                                          Proper computers: - had flashing lights, preferably in HEX - Memory was itty bitty magnetic donuts - Input was punch cards - Interactive access was by Teletype ASR33 (if you were fortunate) - Storage was on a drum - Really fast storage was 'head-per-track' And you are really really old if you: - Know what a card sorter is AND knew how to program the punch panel I suddenly feel very tired ...

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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          rollei35guy wrote:

                                          Proper computers

                                          Boot from punched tape. On the other hand, Real computers are programmed with patch cables, using operational amplifiers, resistors, capacitors, and diodes to perform real-time analog computations without the loss of precision inherent in digital systems. ;P

                                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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