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  • R Rocky Moore

    Well, come on now, they are using VB.NET so didn't you expect something like this? ;) Just think, after a week or so, you should be VP of Software Development if the place is ran that badly.

    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD

    I wonder, do they have only MSDN subscription and 20 developers or do they know the subscription is one per developer? Many IT departments seem to miss that point. One place I worked for had five subscriptions for the 20+ developers and the 12 (IIRC) quality check workers and marketers. Slightly under licensed ;)

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    That has been the case many places in my experience too.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      But when you went to the interview, did you not suspect that this will be the case? I think in this case they are lucky to have you, you can take initiative and change lot of things for better.

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        the toilet paper

        ... might be your pay or benefits package.

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        • T Todd Smith

          Time to go full Agile on them. Get source control, a build server, etc. etc. installed and running. Good developers like to learn things that will make their lives easier. Pray they have a few sitting around. And make sure you inject yourself into the hiring process.

          Todd Smith

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          Pardon my impertinence, but what does 'Agile' have to do with using source control, a build server, and etc.?

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          • D Dirk Higbee

            Highly unusual about that toilet paper. What's really going on? :-D

            My reality check bounced.

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            Steve Mayfield
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            They are trying to get on his good side :laugh:

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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              Nish Nishant
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like.

              Yeah, I am sure that with their high levels of quality and impeccable organization values that you outlined, outsourcing to India must have been a dreadful experience for them :rolleyes: More seriously though, I hope your next few days will work out better.

              Regards, Nish


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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                Stop your bitching, we just hired 2 professional services contractors, they don't even have a desk to sit at. One guy has been here 3 days and does not have a logon yet and is using a temporary security card. I asked where the new PCs were and was informed they would be 45, yes that's FORTY FIVE working days to delivery. After I they had scraped me off the ceiling they told me it was because I had ordered 2x19" monitors instead of the standard 15" they normally supplied. At least they will be working with C#, mostly.

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                • S Steve Mayfield

                  They are trying to get on his good side :laugh:

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                  If his butt is his good side, I don't want to see his bad side :laugh:

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                    FyreWyrm
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac

                    It's a 51, 52, 53, 54, 55... On a more serious note, it sounds like this one's gonna be rough. If my company had an office in San Antonio (or allowed work-from-home devs), I would have referred you, but we're only in the Houston area, and Ohio, and the UK.

                    Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like.

                      Brilliant. So the anti outsourcing revolution is finally happening.

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

                      ROTFL !!!

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      So the anti outsourcing revolution is finally happening.

                      Three years ago the company I work for bought our largest competitor. At the time they had twice the market share we had. Almost all of their development work was being outsourced overseas. Their product had been going downhill and their stock was dropping. The first thing our CEO did was cancel all outsourcing contracts, bring the work inhouse and hire about 100 good devs. Things have gotten much better since then. That made me very proud to be working for the company I work for because I know my job won't ever be outsourced. My CEO knows that if you invest in your people, your people invest in the company.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                        Colin Rae
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                        Ooh, what brand of toilet paper is it?

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                          Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                          Dave Kreskowiak
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                          ...and to think, you were bitching about VB.NET yesterday. That pales in comparison now, doesn't it? :-D

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

                            Funny enough, I do rate companies by what quality toilet paper they use (and the state of the bathrooms).

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                              Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used

                              At least they got the important part right. The rest will fall in line shortly, I'm sure. My first day at the current job I walked in at 7 AM and was asked, "Who are you?" Then the GM informed me I was due to start the week before. Fortunately I still had the paperwork directing me to start on the day I showed up. There was no desk, no computer, and the accountant refused to tell me the admin password for the system; I had been hired to be the IT admin, among other things. Matters have improved a bit, after designing and managing the construction of three substation, a few residential electrical developments, sewer plant process controls, and a pilot solar generating plant. Today they had me lead an entourage of advisors to the Governor on a tour of the facilities we've designed and built in the past 5 years. I do all of the electrical design now, and manage most of the construction projects, attend the meetings the boss hasn't time for, and handle a lot of the sewer and water system matters that involve electrical controls and motors. The accountant can keep her damned computers... I don't have time for it, and I'm having too much fun.:-D But we still have to get the toilet paper situation worked out. What brand do they use there?

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                                Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                                This looks like a blog entry from The Daily WTF[^]! :-D

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                                • F FyreWyrm

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  So the anti outsourcing revolution is finally happening.

                                  Three years ago the company I work for bought our largest competitor. At the time they had twice the market share we had. Almost all of their development work was being outsourced overseas. Their product had been going downhill and their stock was dropping. The first thing our CEO did was cancel all outsourcing contracts, bring the work inhouse and hire about 100 good devs. Things have gotten much better since then. That made me very proud to be working for the company I work for because I know my job won't ever be outsourced. My CEO knows that if you invest in your people, your people invest in the company.

                                  Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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                                  FyreWyrm wrote:

                                  have gotten much

                                  Keeping the tradition alive! :) Cheers!


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                                    Time to go full Agile on them. Get source control, a build server, etc. etc. installed and running. Good developers like to learn things that will make their lives easier. Pray they have a few sitting around. And make sure you inject yourself into the hiring process.

                                    Todd Smith

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                                    Drop the "agile" bit and you might have something there. :)


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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

                                      Funny enough, I do rate companies by what quality toilet paper they use (and the state of the bathrooms).

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                                      At my last one I ended up fixing the non-flushing toilet myself regularly, because nobody else gave a damn, including the building manager not from our company. She did call the plumber every time it stopped flushing, but she never questioned why the plumber's fix only last about a week each time. Turns out it was the level behind the wall, that causes a button press to lift the flushing mechanism, 'pulling the chain'. It would rotate slowly until the button missed it. The plumber was getting paid call-out after call-out for just pushing the lever back each time.

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        Well, they weren't quite ready for me to be hired. When I arrived at the office, there was nothing but a chair for me, and it looks like the last owner had a difficult time feeding himself. After about 20 minutes, they presented me with a barely used... ... printer stand. So I sat there for about an hour before someone decided I really should have a computer, so I got an old Dell P4 with... ... 1gb of RAM. <SARCASM> That's okay, the computer is only running XP, so it doesn't need the same resources as Windows 7. <SARCASM> I got my PC a piece at a time (kinda like Johnny Cash got his Psycho-Billy Cadillac), starting with the keyboard, followed 10 minutes later by a monitor. About five minutes after that, I got the actual PC, followed by a PS/2 mouse that wouldn't plug into the computer. About 20 minutes later, I got a VGA cable to connect the monitor to the computer, a power strip, and a Cat-5 cable. I asked what my login ID was, and - wait-a-minute - nobody created a profile for me, so I had to wait 45 minutes to get that set up. Among other issues, I cannot create folders on my hard drive - all I get when I click on the C:\ tree item in Explorer is a display that says something to the affect that "This folder contains system files and you can't see them because you will destroy your system if you mess with them". I asked about installing Visual Studio, and when I finally left at 4:15, they were still working on making an install CD from their MSDN ISO DVD. That process crashed with 2% of the DVD copy process to go (after taking about an hour to get that far), and that's when I left for home. They have all this code, and it's apparently not in source control, or if it is, it's not the latest version. They have outsourced a lot of their work to India and are bringing it back in-house due to the difficulties involved with out-sourcing to people who don't even know what a bank check looks like. On the bright side, the toilet paper they buy is some of the softest I've ever used.

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                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."

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                                        Dunno, but we must have diametrically opposite perspectives. I'd be as happy as a sandboy in a situation like that.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        • F FyreWyrm

                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          So the anti outsourcing revolution is finally happening.

                                          Three years ago the company I work for bought our largest competitor. At the time they had twice the market share we had. Almost all of their development work was being outsourced overseas. Their product had been going downhill and their stock was dropping. The first thing our CEO did was cancel all outsourcing contracts, bring the work inhouse and hire about 100 good devs. Things have gotten much better since then. That made me very proud to be working for the company I work for because I know my job won't ever be outsourced. My CEO knows that if you invest in your people, your people invest in the company.

                                          Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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                                          You're making good for your company. You should give its name, I'm sure it would get a lot of resumes :)

                                          You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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