New Job - Going Forward [modified]
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
It actually sounds like a great opportunity, take a shop from rank amateur to a completely new, professional level. Implement your standards and impose your ideas on the entire IT area. As long as you don't completely screw the pooch both you and your new employer should come out well in front. Good luck with the entire process. Look forward to seeing your progress and inevitable hiccups here!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
but all projects already underway were to remain in C# until such a time as they needed a major re-write
I'm guessing that should be vb.net :) Good luck with the new job and having the freedom to shape things in your own image can be nice, just don't start putting guns up in the office ;P
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
Exert authority, do not ask for it, in time you will be indispensible! (Then go for Pay rise/Promotion).
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
Good thing the managers are open to new things. Even with the VB.NET part, it could have been a lot worse: Seen yesterday on thedailywtf[^]
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
Thank your lucky stars, c# could just be round the corner... fingers crossed.
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things
I know that feeling, is a healthly challenge!
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me,
That's good. I had a similar (short) experience in a past company (though I were involved only in the new projects): I was the
C#(andC/C++when needed) guy in aVB.NETbased software development team. Best wishes. :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job. But now, I have realized that even my employers might read my posts, let me leave a good impression on them. but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity.
;P I should run away from Lounge now. Seriously.
50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
So, how would you be as a project manager?
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
One of the first things you do should be to ask your new co-workers to sign up on Code Project and to start actively posting on the Lounge :-D That task should probably have higher priority than the VB to C# move.
Regards, Nish
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I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
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So, how would you be as a project manager?
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
Oh yeah, can just imagine working for Mr Curmudgeon! It's bad enough working for 25 year old snot noses, never mind working for an old git... :-)
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So, how would you be as a project manager?
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
"Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
"Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
He knows you can just buy a tool to convert them to C#, right ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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"Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
See, after 24 hours you've got them on the ropes and begging or the sanity of C# [sorry I have to ;P]. Gert them thinking in objects and manageing data, ignore the UI and show the people that matter how good it can be. The other people can go to Walmart...
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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Let's hope your new project manager doesn't push for WPF.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
FyreWyrm wrote:
Let's hope your new project manager does push for WPF.
FTFY
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
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He knows you can just buy a tool to convert them to C#, right ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
But what kind of code quality are we talking about (discounting of course that the code is currently in VB, so anything could be an improvement). :)
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM
It sounds like they treat you like a valuable and exotic resource which is good. And +50 man points for finding a bright side in a tough situation.
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