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  • B Battlehammer

    Yes to WPF, ASP.NET and good team player; no to moving to Kansas City. I just came to Phoenix two years ago.

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    You can lead a horse to water ... :p

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      You can lead a horse to water ... :p

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      So are you in Kansas city now?

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        You can lead a horse to water ... :p

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        You can lead a horse to water ...

        ... but there isn't any in Phoenix.

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          So are you in Kansas city now?

          Click here to get a Google Wave Invite.

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          For the next 12 months or so. Still have to fly back to Deerfield Beach a couple times for a contract there too.

          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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          • C Corporal Agarn

            I wish you luck. I would hate to look for a job right now as I do not interview or test well. Interviews I can do until the first question I cannot answer then its down hill fast. I being 54 have a strike against me walking in the door. Look into the local job agencies, Monster and Dice. There are a couple of others that I do not remember. Also I heard just last week that LinkedIn is a source managers use. Again Good Luck, djj

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            Lost User
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            I'm in a very similar situation, and it looks as if we're going to lose our house and property. We're going into foreclosure. This wasn't a sub-prime mortgage, either, but I had a heart attack, wiping out our savings, and now I can't find work, the value of the property has plunged by >60K and we can't sell it. :|

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            • D Dalek Dave

              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              In my case, age may also be a silent factor.

              Funnily enough my company will not hire anyone under 30 to a senior position. They want people who have kids, families mortgages etc as they tend to be more committed and take less time off. Result? Productive staff that need less supervision. Save money all round!

              ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              not hire anyone under 30 to a senior position

              That makes sense to me.

              Dalek Dave wrote:

              and take less time

              I always take what's coming to me. Sometimes I go negative. :-D

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              • C Chris Losinger

                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                Why?

                beats me. i can only assume that i'm not the only person out there right now with 15+ years of C++ experience and no job.

                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                Lost User
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                move to Bradley, IL - we're hiring

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Things have improved out here somewhat since I got laid off last January, but it's still primarily that Web crap and companies who think that's what they need. If you do that Web crap you can probably get something very quickly. It also depends on how far east you are. I'm beyond Apache Junction, and some companies may choose to hire someone closer in to town. In my case, age may also be a silent factor.

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                  Brady Kelly
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                  I do web crap, so hopefully my searchings will start looking up. :)

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    You can lead a horse to water ... :p

                    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    ... if the horse doesn't drink, shoot it and leave the body as an example to others.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • L Lost User

                      I'm in a very similar situation, and it looks as if we're going to lose our house and property. We're going into foreclosure. This wasn't a sub-prime mortgage, either, but I had a heart attack, wiping out our savings, and now I can't find work, the value of the property has plunged by >60K and we can't sell it. :|

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                      Corporal Agarn
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                      Best of luck to you also. djj

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Craigs List, Monster, and Dice.

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        You guys know about those too!? Looks like I need to find another way to get ahead of the competition...

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                        • B Battlehammer

                          It looks like I will be on the next unemployment statistic for the US. Just as quick question, does anyone have any great ideas on the job search in this market (Or lack of market) and what is the best way to go about it? I am in the east valley of Phoenix, AZ which was booming with jobs two years ago but seems to be as dried up as the weather today. Any advice would be better than no advice. :sigh:

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                          John M Drescher
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                          I am in the other side of this frustration. It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.

                          John

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            In my case, age may also be a silent factor.

                            Funnily enough my company will not hire anyone under 30 to a senior position. They want people who have kids, families mortgages etc as they tend to be more committed and take less time off. Result? Productive staff that need less supervision. Save money all round!

                            ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                            AspDotNetDev
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            company will not hire anyone under 30 to a senior position

                            Jebus! I have to reach a certain age before I'm considered senior!? I thought it was years of experience that counted. Oh well, my mistake I guess.

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                            • J John M Drescher

                              I am in the other side of this frustration. It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.

                              John

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                              AspDotNetDev
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                              John M. Drescher wrote:

                              5 year C++ programmers... for $55K

                              :omg: I only technically have 4 years of professional experience, I make more than that, and I'm still well under my pay grade. Blasphemy, I say, blasphemy!

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                                John M. Drescher wrote:

                                5 year C++ programmers... for $55K

                                :omg: I only technically have 4 years of professional experience, I make more than that, and I'm still well under my pay grade. Blasphemy, I say, blasphemy!

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                                John M Drescher
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                                The problem working for a university is that hr sets the pay scales from what they believe is acceptable. We do have one benefit that you generally do not get elsewhere though. I mean after 3 years they match your retirement account contribution by $1.50 for every $1.00 you contribute up to your max contribution of 8% which is 12% match from their side. Also, after 60 days I believe its is $1.00 to $1.00 match.

                                John

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                                • A AspDotNetDev

                                  John M. Drescher wrote:

                                  5 year C++ programmers... for $55K

                                  :omg: I only technically have 4 years of professional experience, I make more than that, and I'm still well under my pay grade. Blasphemy, I say, blasphemy!

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Seems like John's boss is being a cheapskate to me too. I make about that much after 4 years and I'm living in a cheaper market than he is. Pittsburgh's no LA or NYC; but a fair rate would still be at least $5k, maybe 10, more.

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  • J John M Drescher

                                    I am in the other side of this frustration. It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.

                                    John

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                                    Chris Austin
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                                    John M. Drescher wrote:

                                    It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.

                                    Yeah, it is most certainly the pay. I have a few guys on the team that do similar work and they are making about double that out here in Dallas where the cost of living is similar.

                                    And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                                    • C Chris Austin

                                      John M. Drescher wrote:

                                      It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.

                                      Yeah, it is most certainly the pay. I have a few guys on the team that do similar work and they are making about double that out here in Dallas where the cost of living is similar.

                                      And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      Searches Monster for "Dallas software developer"...

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                                      • C Chris Austin

                                        John M. Drescher wrote:

                                        It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.

                                        Yeah, it is most certainly the pay. I have a few guys on the team that do similar work and they are making about double that out here in Dallas where the cost of living is similar.

                                        And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        $100k for five years is well outside of normal Pittsburgh pay scales. $60-70k sounds about right; although I'm not willing to visit that sort of site from work to check.

                                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                          Searches Monster for "Dallas software developer"...

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                                          John M Drescher
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                                          Me too. Although no comment on the salary.

                                          John

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