Another victim of the economy
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Why?
beats me. i can only assume that i'm not the only person out there right now with 15+ years of C++ experience and no job.
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Things have improved out here somewhat since I got laid off last January, but it's still primarily that Web crap and companies who think that's what they need. If you do that Web crap you can probably get something very quickly. It also depends on how far east you are. I'm beyond Apache Junction, and some companies may choose to hire someone closer in to town. In my case, age may also be a silent factor.
I do web crap, so hopefully my searchings will start looking up. :)
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You can lead a horse to water ... :p
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Craigs List, Monster, and Dice.
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001You guys know about those too!? Looks like I need to find another way to get ahead of the competition...
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I'm in a very similar situation, and it looks as if we're going to lose our house and property. We're going into foreclosure. This wasn't a sub-prime mortgage, either, but I had a heart attack, wiping out our savings, and now I can't find work, the value of the property has plunged by >60K and we can't sell it. :|
Best of luck to you also. djj
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It looks like I will be on the next unemployment statistic for the US. Just as quick question, does anyone have any great ideas on the job search in this market (Or lack of market) and what is the best way to go about it? I am in the east valley of Phoenix, AZ which was booming with jobs two years ago but seems to be as dried up as the weather today. Any advice would be better than no advice. :sigh:
I am in the other side of this frustration. It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.
John
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
In my case, age may also be a silent factor.
Funnily enough my company will not hire anyone under 30 to a senior position. They want people who have kids, families mortgages etc as they tend to be more committed and take less time off. Result? Productive staff that need less supervision. Save money all round!
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Dalek Dave wrote:
company will not hire anyone under 30 to a senior position
Jebus! I have to reach a certain age before I'm considered senior!? I thought it was years of experience that counted. Oh well, my mistake I guess.
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I am in the other side of this frustration. It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
5 year C++ programmers... for $55K
:omg: I only technically have 4 years of professional experience, I make more than that, and I'm still well under my pay grade. Blasphemy, I say, blasphemy!
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John M. Drescher wrote:
5 year C++ programmers... for $55K
:omg: I only technically have 4 years of professional experience, I make more than that, and I'm still well under my pay grade. Blasphemy, I say, blasphemy!
The problem working for a university is that hr sets the pay scales from what they believe is acceptable. We do have one benefit that you generally do not get elsewhere though. I mean after 3 years they match your retirement account contribution by $1.50 for every $1.00 you contribute up to your max contribution of 8% which is 12% match from their side. Also, after 60 days I believe its is $1.00 to $1.00 match.
John
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John M. Drescher wrote:
5 year C++ programmers... for $55K
:omg: I only technically have 4 years of professional experience, I make more than that, and I'm still well under my pay grade. Blasphemy, I say, blasphemy!
Seems like John's boss is being a cheapskate to me too. I make about that much after 4 years and I'm living in a cheaper market than he is. Pittsburgh's no LA or NYC; but a fair rate would still be at least $5k, maybe 10, more.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I am in the other side of this frustration. It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.
Yeah, it is most certainly the pay. I have a few guys on the team that do similar work and they are making about double that out here in Dallas where the cost of living is similar.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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John M. Drescher wrote:
It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.
Yeah, it is most certainly the pay. I have a few guys on the team that do similar work and they are making about double that out here in Dallas where the cost of living is similar.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Searches Monster for "Dallas software developer"...
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Searches Monster for "Dallas software developer"...
Me too. Although no comment on the salary.
John
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John M. Drescher wrote:
It appears there are no 5 year C++ programmers in the Pittsburgh area that want a job writing Qt applications for $55K. Okay I do admit the starting salary is low however this is out of my control.
Yeah, it is most certainly the pay. I have a few guys on the team that do similar work and they are making about double that out here in Dallas where the cost of living is similar.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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The problem working for a university is that hr sets the pay scales from what they believe is acceptable. We do have one benefit that you generally do not get elsewhere though. I mean after 3 years they match your retirement account contribution by $1.50 for every $1.00 you contribute up to your max contribution of 8% which is 12% match from their side. Also, after 60 days I believe its is $1.00 to $1.00 match.
John
Are there education benefits as well?
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Are there education benefits as well?
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
I believe it costs like $15 per credit and a person can take 1 or 2 courses during working hours if they can make up the time. There was also a very good free healthcare program (because we are the #1 heath care provider in the region) but this benefit now has a monthly cost. Well that is if you want real coverage, the limited coverage HMO is still free.
John
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$100k for five years is well outside of normal Pittsburgh pay scales. $60-70k sounds about right; although I'm not willing to visit that sort of site from work to check.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
I have no idea what the pay scales are in Pitt. But, we do pay a little on the high side here and have pretty high expectations.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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I believe it costs like $15 per credit and a person can take 1 or 2 courses during working hours if they can make up the time. There was also a very good free healthcare program (because we are the #1 heath care provider in the region) but this benefit now has a monthly cost. Well that is if you want real coverage, the limited coverage HMO is still free.
John
Ahh... I was thinking along the lines of education for the employees children. I remember back in the days when I was at ASU that university staff got a pretty good discount for their children. I don't know if it is still the same but that has always been in the back of my mind.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Ahh... I was thinking along the lines of education for the employees children. I remember back in the days when I was at ASU that university staff got a pretty good discount for their children. I don't know if it is still the same but that has always been in the back of my mind.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
I believe there is a big discount for that as well however I am not sure what the cost is.
John
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It looks like I will be on the next unemployment statistic for the US. Just as quick question, does anyone have any great ideas on the job search in this market (Or lack of market) and what is the best way to go about it? I am in the east valley of Phoenix, AZ which was booming with jobs two years ago but seems to be as dried up as the weather today. Any advice would be better than no advice. :sigh:
Good luck finding work. The only advice that I can offer is that you should try and work your network of friends and contacts as much as possible to try and find those 'hidden' jobs.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
