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Anna :) wrote: I'm glad to call you all my friends. Just exclude me, please. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Sorry, but I agree with the reply above. Your sig line is hypocritial. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Your welcome. Seems you have a had tough couple of years. From your web-site I see you were asked not to attend your Church and yet it seems it was the Church that was the catalyst that has now brought you to this current situation. I do hope some of the other parishioners are still in contact with you and that you have found other ways of expressing your faith. Shaun PS I agree about Basingstoke.
Stupidity dies. The end of future offspring. Evolution wins. - A Darwin Awards Haiku
Shaun Wilde wrote: Seems you have a had tough couple of years. From your web-site I see you were asked not to attend your Church and yet it seems it was the Church that was the catalyst that has now brought you to this current situation. I do hope some of the other parishioners are still in contact with you and that you have found other ways of expressing your faith. Thanks Shaun. :) It has been hard (and arguably the worst isn't over yet), but all in all I'm glad it's all on the way to being sorted out now. I'm not in regular contact with anyone from my old church, though I do bump into people from time to time and they've been fine so far. I'm glad to say I've found a new church now (Anglican lol) and things are much more positive. :) Shaun Wilde wrote: PS I agree about Basingstoke. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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I wonder how you would expect people to treat you in Anna's situation ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
"In Anna's situation"? It's nobody's fault but "Anna's". He did NOT have to announce what was happening, and he (and the rest of us) would have been a lot better off without doing so. He brought it on himself. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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I wonder how you would expect people to treat you in Anna's situation ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
I'm never going to be in "Anna's" situation so I'm not worried about it. He/She can live however he/she wants, I just don't think this is the place to talk about it. Do you really think it necessary to "come out" in the CP Lounge?
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I just wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone at CP who's been so supportive of me over the last year. I know there were a couple of people who were sceptical about me at the outset (I've even been accused of being that worm B**l S****o a couple of times! :omg: ) but that aside the reaction I've had (both in forum messages and emails) has been heartwarming. :rose: I'm now only two months away from changing role publicly, and to be honest I'm getting very tired of hiding who I am. I feel it's time to let you know me a bit better than you can through just the little bit of me you see in the forums. Before doing so I should say that I'm not completely "out" at work yet (although my immediate colleagues and the company are aware of the situation) so I would ask for discretion. Once the formal announcement is made at work (which I expect to happen sometime in December), I'll close off this account and switch back to my other one (renamed of course!). I'll also update my articles to change the name on them. The whole story of who I am and how I came to be in this position is on my website - www.annasplace.me.uk[^]. If you have a look I hope you find it interesting. I'm glad to call you all my friends. :love: Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschAnna, good luck. It shows that people can achieve some amazing things :) By the way - if you get into the goth scene maybe we'll meet up at Scarlet or Carnival of Souls sometime ? (I'm still waiting to get to a goth night locally) :cool: Take care Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Paul A. Howes wrote: If you're going to have a signature that saccharine, you should really check your attitude at the door. Please can you explain what you mean? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
He's saying that despite your sig preaching love and tolerance, you seem to be quite willing to make the occasional exception. Stick to your guns, for whatever reason you may be holding them. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Sorry, but I agree with the reply above. Your sig line is hypocritial. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
His sig says that JESUS CHRIST is love, not Paul Selormey. Not hypocrisy here.
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Ya know, I like to think of myself as a fairly understanding live-and-let-live kinda guy where this stuff is concerned, but I honestly think you would have been better off not mentioning your mental problems here. Just because some nitwit gave it a name (Gender Dysphoria?) does NOT mean the condition really exists, nor does it mean we should just accept it. If you want to be a girl, fine, be one, but coming in here and expecting sympathy, understanding, and acceptance from the bulk of the audience after saying you're a guy that wants to be a girl is pure bullshit, and I for one don't want to hear about it. I'm not sure how many people agree with my outlook, but I'm sure there are a few. I don't want to know who you were (ad I really do give a flying donkey f**k either), and frankly people like you creap me out - you're as bad as fundamentalist religious fanatics. Your "coming out" messages are precisely the kind of bullshit that gets posted here that does NOT belong and that I hate to see, and I will continue to visciously lash out and verbally viscerate anyone that does so. Now, before anyone gets on their freakin high-horse, remember one thing - I'm not in the mood to debate with whiny, sniveling little Barbies who think I'm being too harsh or downright rude. This "coming out" shit has no place in the lounge. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
Touché! Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... :) My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection
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Anna, good luck. It shows that people can achieve some amazing things :) By the way - if you get into the goth scene maybe we'll meet up at Scarlet or Carnival of Souls sometime ? (I'm still waiting to get to a goth night locally) :cool: Take care Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Anna, good luck. It shows that people can achieve some amazing things By the way - if you get into the goth scene maybe we'll meet up at Scarlet or Carnival of Souls sometime ? (I'm still waiting to get to a goth night locally) Thank you Elaine. I'd love to sometime (black rather suits me if you hadn't noticed...) :) Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Paul A. Howes wrote: If you're going to have a signature that saccharine, you should really check your attitude at the door. Please can you explain what you mean? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote: Please can you explain what you mean? Well I was going to reply the same as Howes so maybe my explanation is the same: You profess that Jesus Christ is love, and that that message should be spread. By that I assume you are a follower and a practicer of JC's message. Yet you refuse the friendship of Anna almost to the point of banishment, which seems to me to be very hypocritical. I was also going to ask you: Is what Anna is going through a "sin" or wrong according to your beliefs?
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"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill -
Ya know, I like to think of myself as a fairly understanding live-and-let-live kinda guy where this stuff is concerned, but I honestly think you would have been better off not mentioning your mental problems here. Just because some nitwit gave it a name (Gender Dysphoria?) does NOT mean the condition really exists, nor does it mean we should just accept it. If you want to be a girl, fine, be one, but coming in here and expecting sympathy, understanding, and acceptance from the bulk of the audience after saying you're a guy that wants to be a girl is pure bullshit, and I for one don't want to hear about it. I'm not sure how many people agree with my outlook, but I'm sure there are a few. I don't want to know who you were (ad I really do give a flying donkey f**k either), and frankly people like you creap me out - you're as bad as fundamentalist religious fanatics. Your "coming out" messages are precisely the kind of bullshit that gets posted here that does NOT belong and that I hate to see, and I will continue to visciously lash out and verbally viscerate anyone that does so. Now, before anyone gets on their freakin high-horse, remember one thing - I'm not in the mood to debate with whiny, sniveling little Barbies who think I'm being too harsh or downright rude. This "coming out" shit has no place in the lounge. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
I thought I knew what an idiot was. You learn something new every day. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Paul Selormey wrote: Please can you explain what you mean? Well I was going to reply the same as Howes so maybe my explanation is the same: You profess that Jesus Christ is love, and that that message should be spread. By that I assume you are a follower and a practicer of JC's message. Yet you refuse the friendship of Anna almost to the point of banishment, which seems to me to be very hypocritical. I was also going to ask you: Is what Anna is going through a "sin" or wrong according to your beliefs?
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Cape Town, South AfricaSometimes it takes rejection to turn somebody's life around. Love does not equal acceptance.
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He's saying that despite your sig preaching love and tolerance, you seem to be quite willing to make the occasional exception. Stick to your guns, for whatever reason you may be holding them. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
Oh, here in Brazil we have this T-shirt saying (in portuguese, obviously): "Jesus loves you, but I think you are a lamer!" My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection
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Touché! Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... :) My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection
Daniel Turini wrote: Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... Wrong!! 8080/Z-80 assembler, Pascal, C (pulled a compiler apart to see how it worked), C++,....All self taught - no courses aside from UML. Making assumptions can bite you Daniel. ;P Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Daniel Turini wrote: Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... Wrong!! 8080/Z-80 assembler, Pascal, C (pulled a compiler apart to see how it worked), C++,....All self taught - no courses aside from UML. Making assumptions can bite you Daniel. ;P Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschOh, I interviewed hundreds of programmers. Most of them say they know all of this things. Not 10% of them know... My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection
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Sometimes it takes rejection to turn somebody's life around. Love does not equal acceptance.
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"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston ChurchillJason Henderson wrote: Sometimes it takes rejection to turn somebody's life around. Love does not equal acceptance. this only works if the person your rejecting has some reason to want to keep in your good graces. Just sounds like a nice way to paint intolerance. Jesus said to love your neighbor as you do yourself, not love your neighbor only if they behave like you do. BW The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to talk, mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding. - Jack Kerouac
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Ya know, I like to think of myself as a fairly understanding live-and-let-live kinda guy where this stuff is concerned, but I honestly think you would have been better off not mentioning your mental problems here. Just because some nitwit gave it a name (Gender Dysphoria?) does NOT mean the condition really exists, nor does it mean we should just accept it. If you want to be a girl, fine, be one, but coming in here and expecting sympathy, understanding, and acceptance from the bulk of the audience after saying you're a guy that wants to be a girl is pure bullshit, and I for one don't want to hear about it. I'm not sure how many people agree with my outlook, but I'm sure there are a few. I don't want to know who you were (ad I really do give a flying donkey f**k either), and frankly people like you creap me out - you're as bad as fundamentalist religious fanatics. Your "coming out" messages are precisely the kind of bullshit that gets posted here that does NOT belong and that I hate to see, and I will continue to visciously lash out and verbally viscerate anyone that does so. Now, before anyone gets on their freakin high-horse, remember one thing - I'm not in the mood to debate with whiny, sniveling little Barbies who think I'm being too harsh or downright rude. This "coming out" shit has no place in the lounge. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
John, you can hide who you are if you wish. I won't condemn you for that, and nor should anyone else. I won't and can't do that though, so don't ask me. I've done what I had to, and I'm not going to pretend to have a past I didn't have. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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The question is, why should I tolerate intolerance ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
If you want to rock the boat, expect to get thrown off.
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You will tolerate abberant behavior, but not one man's opinion. Who's the idiot?
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"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston ChurchillThe question is, why should I tolerate intolerance ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
