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  • P Paul Selormey

    Paul A. Howes wrote: If you're going to have a signature that saccharine, you should really check your attitude at the door. Please can you explain what you mean? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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    He's saying that despite your sig preaching love and tolerance, you seem to be quite willing to make the occasional exception. Stick to your guns, for whatever reason you may be holding them. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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      Sorry, but I agree with the reply above. Your sig line is hypocritial. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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      Jason Henderson
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      His sig says that JESUS CHRIST is love, not Paul Selormey. Not hypocrisy here.

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      "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Ya know, I like to think of myself as a fairly understanding live-and-let-live kinda guy where this stuff is concerned, but I honestly think you would have been better off not mentioning your mental problems here. Just because some nitwit gave it a name (Gender Dysphoria?) does NOT mean the condition really exists, nor does it mean we should just accept it. If you want to be a girl, fine, be one, but coming in here and expecting sympathy, understanding, and acceptance from the bulk of the audience after saying you're a guy that wants to be a girl is pure bullshit, and I for one don't want to hear about it. I'm not sure how many people agree with my outlook, but I'm sure there are a few. I don't want to know who you were (ad I really do give a flying donkey f**k either), and frankly people like you creap me out - you're as bad as fundamentalist religious fanatics. Your "coming out" messages are precisely the kind of bullshit that gets posted here that does NOT belong and that I hate to see, and I will continue to visciously lash out and verbally viscerate anyone that does so. Now, before anyone gets on their freakin high-horse, remember one thing - I'm not in the mood to debate with whiny, sniveling little Barbies who think I'm being too harsh or downright rude. This "coming out" shit has no place in the lounge. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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        Daniel Turini
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        Touché! Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... :) My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection

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          Anna, good luck. It shows that people can achieve some amazing things :) By the way - if you get into the goth scene maybe we'll meet up at Scarlet or Carnival of Souls sometime ? (I'm still waiting to get to a goth night locally) :cool: Take care Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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          Trollslayer wrote: Anna, good luck. It shows that people can achieve some amazing things By the way - if you get into the goth scene maybe we'll meet up at Scarlet or Carnival of Souls sometime ? (I'm still waiting to get to a goth night locally) Thank you Elaine. I'd love to sometime (black rather suits me if you hadn't noticed...) :) Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
          - Marcia Graesch

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          • P Paul Selormey

            Paul A. Howes wrote: If you're going to have a signature that saccharine, you should really check your attitude at the door. Please can you explain what you mean? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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            Paul Watson
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            Paul Selormey wrote: Please can you explain what you mean? Well I was going to reply the same as Howes so maybe my explanation is the same: You profess that Jesus Christ is love, and that that message should be spread. By that I assume you are a follower and a practicer of JC's message. Yet you refuse the friendship of Anna almost to the point of banishment, which seems to me to be very hypocritical. I was also going to ask you: Is what Anna is going through a "sin" or wrong according to your beliefs?

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Ya know, I like to think of myself as a fairly understanding live-and-let-live kinda guy where this stuff is concerned, but I honestly think you would have been better off not mentioning your mental problems here. Just because some nitwit gave it a name (Gender Dysphoria?) does NOT mean the condition really exists, nor does it mean we should just accept it. If you want to be a girl, fine, be one, but coming in here and expecting sympathy, understanding, and acceptance from the bulk of the audience after saying you're a guy that wants to be a girl is pure bullshit, and I for one don't want to hear about it. I'm not sure how many people agree with my outlook, but I'm sure there are a few. I don't want to know who you were (ad I really do give a flying donkey f**k either), and frankly people like you creap me out - you're as bad as fundamentalist religious fanatics. Your "coming out" messages are precisely the kind of bullshit that gets posted here that does NOT belong and that I hate to see, and I will continue to visciously lash out and verbally viscerate anyone that does so. Now, before anyone gets on their freakin high-horse, remember one thing - I'm not in the mood to debate with whiny, sniveling little Barbies who think I'm being too harsh or downright rude. This "coming out" shit has no place in the lounge. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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              I thought I knew what an idiot was. You learn something new every day. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                I thought I knew what an idiot was. You learn something new every day. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                Jason Henderson
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                You will tolerate abberant behavior, but not one man's opinion. Who's the idiot?

                Jason Henderson
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                "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Paul Selormey wrote: Please can you explain what you mean? Well I was going to reply the same as Howes so maybe my explanation is the same: You profess that Jesus Christ is love, and that that message should be spread. By that I assume you are a follower and a practicer of JC's message. Yet you refuse the friendship of Anna almost to the point of banishment, which seems to me to be very hypocritical. I was also going to ask you: Is what Anna is going through a "sin" or wrong according to your beliefs?

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

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                  Jason Henderson
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                  Sometimes it takes rejection to turn somebody's life around. Love does not equal acceptance.

                  Jason Henderson
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                  "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    He's saying that despite your sig preaching love and tolerance, you seem to be quite willing to make the occasional exception. Stick to your guns, for whatever reason you may be holding them. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                    Daniel Turini
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                    Oh, here in Brazil we have this T-shirt saying (in portuguese, obviously): "Jesus loves you, but I think you are a lamer!" My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection

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                    • D Daniel Turini

                      Touché! Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... :) My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection

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                      Anna
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                      Daniel Turini wrote: Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... Wrong!! 8080/Z-80 assembler, Pascal, C (pulled a compiler apart to see how it worked), C++,....All self taught - no courses aside from UML. Making assumptions can bite you Daniel. ;P Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                      - Marcia Graesch

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                        Daniel Turini wrote: Come on, he/she/it must be a VB programmer... Wrong!! 8080/Z-80 assembler, Pascal, C (pulled a compiler apart to see how it worked), C++,....All self taught - no courses aside from UML. Making assumptions can bite you Daniel. ;P Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                        - Marcia Graesch

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                        Oh, I interviewed hundreds of programmers. Most of them say they know all of this things. Not 10% of them know... My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection

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                        • J Jason Henderson

                          Sometimes it takes rejection to turn somebody's life around. Love does not equal acceptance.

                          Jason Henderson
                          start page
                          articles
                          "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                          Jason Henderson wrote: Sometimes it takes rejection to turn somebody's life around. Love does not equal acceptance. this only works if the person your rejecting has some reason to want to keep in your good graces. Just sounds like a nice way to paint intolerance. Jesus said to love your neighbor as you do yourself, not love your neighbor only if they behave like you do. BW The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to talk, mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding. - Jack Kerouac

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            Ya know, I like to think of myself as a fairly understanding live-and-let-live kinda guy where this stuff is concerned, but I honestly think you would have been better off not mentioning your mental problems here. Just because some nitwit gave it a name (Gender Dysphoria?) does NOT mean the condition really exists, nor does it mean we should just accept it. If you want to be a girl, fine, be one, but coming in here and expecting sympathy, understanding, and acceptance from the bulk of the audience after saying you're a guy that wants to be a girl is pure bullshit, and I for one don't want to hear about it. I'm not sure how many people agree with my outlook, but I'm sure there are a few. I don't want to know who you were (ad I really do give a flying donkey f**k either), and frankly people like you creap me out - you're as bad as fundamentalist religious fanatics. Your "coming out" messages are precisely the kind of bullshit that gets posted here that does NOT belong and that I hate to see, and I will continue to visciously lash out and verbally viscerate anyone that does so. Now, before anyone gets on their freakin high-horse, remember one thing - I'm not in the mood to debate with whiny, sniveling little Barbies who think I'm being too harsh or downright rude. This "coming out" shit has no place in the lounge. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                            Anna
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                            John, you can hide who you are if you wish. I won't condemn you for that, and nor should anyone else. I won't and can't do that though, so don't ask me. I've done what I had to, and I'm not going to pretend to have a past I didn't have. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                            - Marcia Graesch

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                              The question is, why should I tolerate intolerance ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                              Jason Henderson
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                              If you want to rock the boat, expect to get thrown off.

                              Jason Henderson
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                              "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                              • J Jason Henderson

                                You will tolerate abberant behavior, but not one man's opinion. Who's the idiot?

                                Jason Henderson
                                start page
                                articles
                                "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                                The question is, why should I tolerate intolerance ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                • D Daniel Turini

                                  Oh, I interviewed hundreds of programmers. Most of them say they know all of this things. Not 10% of them know... My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection

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                                  Daniel Turini wrote: Oh, I interviewed hundreds of programmers. Most of them say they know all of this things. Not 10% of them know... Oddly enough, so have I - so I do know what you mean. My dev history is on the profile of my other account - go and take a look if you're not convinced. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                                  - Marcia Graesch

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Sorry, but I agree with the reply above. Your sig line is hypocritial. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                    Paul Selormey
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                                    Hmmmm, it seems I am getting what both of you are driving at. Let me make it easy...hoping you will understand:

                                    • Putting Christianity aside, I love and honor woman, I will simply not put up with anyone who dishonors them in anyway.
                                    • Back to Christianity, it is good for him to know the truth and the wrong path he is taken, instead of "falseful" smile, in the name of freedom - the little I can say.
                                    • On social level, I was well disciplined by my Mom, and she loves - I do not have to be told.
                                    • To you, let your child do whatever he/she wants, simply sit and watch to show him/her your "love" - your family will be a better place.

                                    Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                      "In Anna's situation"? It's nobody's fault but "Anna's". He did NOT have to announce what was happening, and he (and the rest of us) would have been a lot better off without doing so. He brought it on himself. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                                      I have known someone go through this. It is not a mental problem but a genetic disorder. Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                        The question is, why should I tolerate intolerance ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                        Trollslayer wrote: The question is, why should I tolerate intolerance ? I understand what your saying, but the paradox is worthy of note. ;) BW The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to talk, mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding. - Jack Kerouac

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                                        • P Paul Watson

                                          Paul Selormey wrote: Please can you explain what you mean? Well I was going to reply the same as Howes so maybe my explanation is the same: You profess that Jesus Christ is love, and that that message should be spread. By that I assume you are a follower and a practicer of JC's message. Yet you refuse the friendship of Anna almost to the point of banishment, which seems to me to be very hypocritical. I was also going to ask you: Is what Anna is going through a "sin" or wrong according to your beliefs?

                                          Paul Watson
                                          Bluegrass
                                          Cape Town, South Africa

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                                          Having a disease is not a sin. However, I agree with John Simmons, just b/c someone gave it a name, doesn't mean it's a real condition. Just like today, homosexuality used to be considered a mental condition that should be treated, now it's an "alternative lifestyle" and everyone's ok with it. A man physically changing his body to become a woman, and I'm assuming pursue relationships with men, is a sin. Christians are not to associate with people that are sinning with no desire to repent. "But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person." (1 Cor 5:11) "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Cor 6:9-11) Sodomite refers to the more masculine in the homosexual relationship while the greek word tranlated as "homesexual" refers to the more effeminate in the relationship. That some churches gladly welcome these people into their fellowship shows that that church does not value Scripture. Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."

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