Who will topple first? Google or Microsoft?
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Media2r wrote:
Careful now - you might invoke the wrath of the almighty "ah blow me!" CSS...
FTFY Don't mention it ;)
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Just when I thought I'd see the end to FTFY :)
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Just when I thought I'd see the end to FTFY :)
Glad to oblige :)
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Google is in the advertising business. They may have competencies in hundreds of other areas but over 90% of its revenues come from advertising. Invent a better advertising system and Google will topple. It will be unable to sustain all its free services. You don't have to compete with Google's email or mobile OS products, you only have to compete with their advertising product (good luck with that.) (Just saying you shouldn't confuse what a company does with what pays the bills. Microsoft has expensive departments carried by just a few core departments that make all the money. So they are susceptible too.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
That's if they don't buy you out. Why beat the system when you can buy the system? Good to see you hear Paul, been a while :)
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Just when I thought I'd see the end to FTFY :)
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Norm .net wrote:
Just when I thought I'd see the end to FTFY
Yeah - THAT'S likely to happen in the near future... //L
Media2r wrote:
Yeah - THAT'S likely to happen in the near future...
Html formmatting error - FTFY
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Media2r wrote:
Yeah - THAT'S likely to happen in the near future...
Html formmatting error - FTFY
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Vikram, On the side note, was AP really tensed with the telangana issue.. Being in Germany , I could not gauge the mood in India My old geography book is missing around 5-6 states already :)
cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
I'm in Madras going insane with a migration issue, but yes, I get the idea Telengana is boiling. There's plenty of violence, a colleague on a visit to Hyd last week passed through Osmania Univ five minutes before a riot. (We ragged him saying he instigated it and escaped :) )
Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
but without a good interface for the GDB, decent IDE and visual framework it is useless for creating business software of any kind
*cough* Qt Creator[^] gdb interface? Check. Decent IDE? Check. Visual framework? Check. :)
My Linux development adventures was some six years ago, so that is something new for me. Thanks! Bookmarked and five voted!
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Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps?
Of course. We don't live in a static world and every now and again there is a 'game changing' innovation or product.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.
I couldn't guess.
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Ever? You mean like in 50,000,000,000 years time? Of course, both will be long gone. (Sorry but the question is useless to ask. Even if you define "Ever" as "in 5 years" you'll be a monkey's uncle if you guess right. Who would have predicted MySpace losing to Facebook so quickly? Altavista to Yahoo to Google so quickly? Now we have this "dominant" phase going on and... impossible to say when it will end and by whom.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
Paul Watson wrote:
Who would have predicted MySpace losing to Facebook so quickly?
Anybody who isn't blind? :-D
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The EU will prevent either from toppling the other in the interest of competition. Only an EU firm would ever be permitted to topple either...
Wrong! What EU would do is to present a ballot screen for consumers to choose which company they want to topple. :)
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I think Microsoft unless it changes its pricing model. There comes a point when an OS and an office suite is good enough for 99% of the people so no need to buy it again.
John
WinXP and Office 2003?
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WinXP and Office 2003?
My question is more of will there be a Windows 2025 or Office 2025?
John
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I think Microsoft unless it changes its pricing model. There comes a point when an OS and an office suite is good enough for 99% of the people so no need to buy it again.
John
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My question is more of will there be a Windows 2025 or Office 2025?
John
Yes, and will anyone care.
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Google is in the advertising business. They may have competencies in hundreds of other areas but over 90% of its revenues come from advertising. Invent a better advertising system and Google will topple. It will be unable to sustain all its free services. You don't have to compete with Google's email or mobile OS products, you only have to compete with their advertising product (good luck with that.) (Just saying you shouldn't confuse what a company does with what pays the bills. Microsoft has expensive departments carried by just a few core departments that make all the money. So they are susceptible too.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
Paul Watson wrote:
Google is in the advertising business
That's a very astute observation, Paul, and one that is missed by many. The many probably includes a majority of Google employees. That's almost certainly true of most companies. We all tend to think our role is the important part of the business, but most of the time it just ain't true. In my company we have a majority of workers who grumble about having to interrupt their other tasks to read meters. They don't fully appreciate the fact that we are in the business of selling power and water, along with providing sewer services (which aren't directly metered). Even my job isn't essential - we could always hire a consulting engineer to design substations. So I gladly read meters whenever needed. I like my paycheck, and when my company is profitable I sometimes get bonuses and raises. Reading meters generates billings, and when bills are paid, we get paid. Everything else is secondary to that function, excepting emergencies. It's a fact of business that the core work of a company is usually done by a few, often underappreciated employees, supported by a horde of people performing one-off functions. Their work is important, certainly, but not essential to the success of the enterprise.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Google is in the advertising business
That's a very astute observation, Paul, and one that is missed by many. The many probably includes a majority of Google employees. That's almost certainly true of most companies. We all tend to think our role is the important part of the business, but most of the time it just ain't true. In my company we have a majority of workers who grumble about having to interrupt their other tasks to read meters. They don't fully appreciate the fact that we are in the business of selling power and water, along with providing sewer services (which aren't directly metered). Even my job isn't essential - we could always hire a consulting engineer to design substations. So I gladly read meters whenever needed. I like my paycheck, and when my company is profitable I sometimes get bonuses and raises. Reading meters generates billings, and when bills are paid, we get paid. Everything else is secondary to that function, excepting emergencies. It's a fact of business that the core work of a company is usually done by a few, often underappreciated employees, supported by a horde of people performing one-off functions. Their work is important, certainly, but not essential to the success of the enterprise.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
So true. I grumble about having to write three proposals a year but the R&D company I work for is in the funding acquisition business. If I don't write those proposals then I won't get funded and I'll be out of a job. Everyone else has to write proposals too. Out of 150 people writing proposals we get we enough funds each year to fund our R&D (i.e. 150 people on say 40 projects a year.) What I actually do with the funds is, sadly, less important than how I get the funds (the benefit to the ones providing the funds is that 1 out of 10 funded projects will return 100x. But they know not to stake it all on one funded project but rather to fund a bunch of projects.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
I wouldn't say they are far weaker, but they are weaker though. They need to be better to make any headway, not just as good.
That was exactly my point.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
I thought there were plenty of alternatives. Perhaps you mean there are no half decent alternatives?
Linux is still too generic to be used from other then sys admins, programmers or dedicated teenage geeks. The GCC is a very good compiler but without a good interface for the GDB, decent IDE and visual framework it is useless for creating business software of any kind.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Google's isn't, though the bulk of it is.
Not sure I understand this. :)
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
Not sure I understand this.
Someone else says in this thread that Google is about 90% ad-funded. Don't know whether that's right but it's certainly less than 100%. Google Apps, for example, is paid for.
Kevin
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Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.
Kevin
There will be some "New" thing come along and probably knock them both out. We have moved a bit in the computer world over the last decade, but I just feel some fresh new inovations are on the way that will makes us wonder how we every used all this stuff.
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