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Why Microsoft Azure competition sucks (for now)

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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Ok I am confused, which competition are you talking about? The Azure competition, contest or lottery or whatever you call on CP does not have US only restriction.

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    DABBee
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    Yes it does. http://www.codeproject.com/Feature/Azure/ dammint, linking still not working for me.

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Ok I am confused, which competition are you talking about? The Azure competition, contest or lottery or whatever you call on CP does not have US only restriction.

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      Nish Nishant
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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      The Azure competition, contest or lottery or whatever you call on CP does not have US only restriction.

      Funnily the CP server that logs all the running services seems to be in UK time. I just uploaded mine and it shows under Dec 11th even though it's only Dec 10th right now :~

      Regards, Nish


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        http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3300215#xx3300215xx[^] Unfortunately this offer is open to US readers only. We're working hard to extend this offer to all members.

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        Nish Nishant
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        dighn wrote:

        Unfortunately this offer is open to US readers only. We're working hard to extend this offer to all members.

        I don't see that text in Jeff's post, nor do I see it on the competition details page.

        Regards, Nish


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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Ok I am confused, which competition are you talking about? The Azure competition, contest or lottery or whatever you call on CP does not have US only restriction.

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          bryce
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          if thats the case why does the link on the lounge take you to a "US only" page? Bryce

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            if thats the case why does the link on the lounge take you to a "US only" page? Bryce

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            Nish Nishant
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            bryce wrote:

            if thats the case why does the link on the lounge take you to a "US only" page?

            Ah that explains why Rama and I didn't see any "Not available outside the US" message. You only see the page if you connect from a non-US IP address.

            Regards, Nish


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            • B bryce

              US only. Listen up Microsoft - this is a global website. Pull your US centric heads in. I ask - how hard can it really be to organise a competition for the WORLD ? Everyone from India, to NZ, to weird foreign places where no one sensible would DREAM of living, like Christian Grauss at home in Van Diemen's Land, use codeproject, I'm sure there are even nerds in Antartica who log in. May I be bold enought to suggest that having a US only comp only reinforces the "US" and them situation ? And ...well lets just face facts, call a spade a spade and tell things like they are. This attitude/policy just isn't cool, groovy or even clever. We don't care what special reasons you might have, what the "microsoft policy is." why "its just harder than you think." Cut it out. Its Christmas time. Bryce

              MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
              Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

              Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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              Jeff Hadfield
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              The short answer: this competition brought to you by the US business unit of Microsoft as a pilot program before it can be rolled out worldwide. We hear you. Thanks Jeff

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                dighn wrote:

                Unfortunately this offer is open to US readers only. We're working hard to extend this offer to all members.

                I don't see that text in Jeff's post, nor do I see it on the competition details page.

                Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                dighn
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                The page detects your location. You are in the US yes?

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                • J Jeff Hadfield

                  The short answer: this competition brought to you by the US business unit of Microsoft as a pilot program before it can be rolled out worldwide. We hear you. Thanks Jeff

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                  bryce
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                  and heres the rather to be expected reply to that: Why roll out a US only version first? "well we're going to do the rest of the world real soon" Why risk upsetting the target audience in the rest of the world? Whether or not you agree with it, Microsoft has a public face issue when it comes to issues like this. It is, however, cool when you do a worldwide release of Operating systems etc. But releasing stuff in this way does Microsoft's reputation no good - i'd have thought this was basic marketting ? (its friday, i'm not very articulate today) Bryce

                  MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                  Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                  • B bryce

                    US only. Listen up Microsoft - this is a global website. Pull your US centric heads in. I ask - how hard can it really be to organise a competition for the WORLD ? Everyone from India, to NZ, to weird foreign places where no one sensible would DREAM of living, like Christian Grauss at home in Van Diemen's Land, use codeproject, I'm sure there are even nerds in Antartica who log in. May I be bold enought to suggest that having a US only comp only reinforces the "US" and them situation ? And ...well lets just face facts, call a spade a spade and tell things like they are. This attitude/policy just isn't cool, groovy or even clever. We don't care what special reasons you might have, what the "microsoft policy is." why "its just harder than you think." Cut it out. Its Christmas time. Bryce

                    MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                    Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                    Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                    RichardM1
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                    While I feel for you, do YOU want to do all the legal work in each country? The differences in laws are non-trivial, and making a set of rules that work for each and every country is probably just not worth the hassle and cost. It may even be possible, as different countries can have mutually contradictory laws, so that you CAN'T have a contest legal in all countries. Have you looked up the legality of walking down the left side of a road, with a goat, to determine if it is legal in all all cities and towns, in all counties, in all 50 states? And that is just the US. Every country has really stupid WTF? laws on their books. Lawyers do not come up with logical rules that mesh well with those of the rest of the world, they come up with weird, convoluted stuff that only they can interpret, so they continue to have job security. So, when you run the world, you can make the rules so that MS can give stuff away easy in all countries. Until then, realize that wishes are not horses.

                    Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                    • B bryce

                      US only. Listen up Microsoft - this is a global website. Pull your US centric heads in. I ask - how hard can it really be to organise a competition for the WORLD ? Everyone from India, to NZ, to weird foreign places where no one sensible would DREAM of living, like Christian Grauss at home in Van Diemen's Land, use codeproject, I'm sure there are even nerds in Antartica who log in. May I be bold enought to suggest that having a US only comp only reinforces the "US" and them situation ? And ...well lets just face facts, call a spade a spade and tell things like they are. This attitude/policy just isn't cool, groovy or even clever. We don't care what special reasons you might have, what the "microsoft policy is." why "its just harder than you think." Cut it out. Its Christmas time. Bryce

                      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                      Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                      Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                      martin_hughes
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                      You made the wrong demand :) "Dear Microsoft, Send me a Kindle and I might consider trying Azure. Yours, ....

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                      • M martin_hughes

                        You made the wrong demand :) "Dear Microsoft, Send me a Kindle and I might consider trying Azure. Yours, ....

                        Books written by CP members

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                        bryce
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                        oh crap - i didnt actually think of that! :) bryce

                        MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                        • R RichardM1

                          While I feel for you, do YOU want to do all the legal work in each country? The differences in laws are non-trivial, and making a set of rules that work for each and every country is probably just not worth the hassle and cost. It may even be possible, as different countries can have mutually contradictory laws, so that you CAN'T have a contest legal in all countries. Have you looked up the legality of walking down the left side of a road, with a goat, to determine if it is legal in all all cities and towns, in all counties, in all 50 states? And that is just the US. Every country has really stupid WTF? laws on their books. Lawyers do not come up with logical rules that mesh well with those of the rest of the world, they come up with weird, convoluted stuff that only they can interpret, so they continue to have job security. So, when you run the world, you can make the rules so that MS can give stuff away easy in all countries. Until then, realize that wishes are not horses.

                          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                          bryce
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                          rubbish old bean utter tosh. :) plenty of other companies can organise a world wide competition. in fact M$ can - the bloke said it'd be rolled out soonish if i read him correctly. The point here is that making it US only (even if it is just to start with) is pants. bryce

                          MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                          Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                          Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                            rubbish old bean utter tosh. :) plenty of other companies can organise a world wide competition. in fact M$ can - the bloke said it'd be rolled out soonish if i read him correctly. The point here is that making it US only (even if it is just to start with) is pants. bryce

                            MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                            Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                            Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                            RichardM1
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                            bryce wrote:

                            is pants.

                            Sorry, I don't understand the term., though the context is obvious. :-O Do you put every company under this kind of requirement, or just MS? Given they are a US company, why shouldn't they start in that market? Does Fosters have to have a sale in the US if they have it in Oz? I am no MS lover, but if you think they have to do everything exactly the same for everyone exactly at the same time, you are being petty. Sounds like you are demanding political correctness out of them. You know they are going to give something away, and you are pissed at them for not doing it now, where you are. Patience, grasshopper.

                            Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                            • J Jeff Hadfield

                              The short answer: this competition brought to you by the US business unit of Microsoft as a pilot program before it can be rolled out worldwide. We hear you. Thanks Jeff

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar
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                              You could have mentioned the fact that this is open only to USA members in your sticky post.

                              Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                              • B bryce

                                and heres the rather to be expected reply to that: Why roll out a US only version first? "well we're going to do the rest of the world real soon" Why risk upsetting the target audience in the rest of the world? Whether or not you agree with it, Microsoft has a public face issue when it comes to issues like this. It is, however, cool when you do a worldwide release of Operating systems etc. But releasing stuff in this way does Microsoft's reputation no good - i'd have thought this was basic marketting ? (its friday, i'm not very articulate today) Bryce

                                MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                                Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                                Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Promotional gimics are run by the national business units of MS; not by corporate. Which means that the only thing that can be done is to guilt the other units into copying good ideas by making a stink online.

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                                • B bryce

                                  rubbish old bean utter tosh. :) plenty of other companies can organise a world wide competition. in fact M$ can - the bloke said it'd be rolled out soonish if i read him correctly. The point here is that making it US only (even if it is just to start with) is pants. bryce

                                  MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                                  Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                                  Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  The contest, or azure?

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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