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Why Microsoft Azure competition sucks (for now)

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  • N Nish Nishant

    dighn wrote:

    Unfortunately this offer is open to US readers only. We're working hard to extend this offer to all members.

    I don't see that text in Jeff's post, nor do I see it on the competition details page.

    Regards, Nish


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    dighn
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    The page detects your location. You are in the US yes?

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    • J Jeff Hadfield

      The short answer: this competition brought to you by the US business unit of Microsoft as a pilot program before it can be rolled out worldwide. We hear you. Thanks Jeff

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      bryce
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      and heres the rather to be expected reply to that: Why roll out a US only version first? "well we're going to do the rest of the world real soon" Why risk upsetting the target audience in the rest of the world? Whether or not you agree with it, Microsoft has a public face issue when it comes to issues like this. It is, however, cool when you do a worldwide release of Operating systems etc. But releasing stuff in this way does Microsoft's reputation no good - i'd have thought this was basic marketting ? (its friday, i'm not very articulate today) Bryce

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        US only. Listen up Microsoft - this is a global website. Pull your US centric heads in. I ask - how hard can it really be to organise a competition for the WORLD ? Everyone from India, to NZ, to weird foreign places where no one sensible would DREAM of living, like Christian Grauss at home in Van Diemen's Land, use codeproject, I'm sure there are even nerds in Antartica who log in. May I be bold enought to suggest that having a US only comp only reinforces the "US" and them situation ? And ...well lets just face facts, call a spade a spade and tell things like they are. This attitude/policy just isn't cool, groovy or even clever. We don't care what special reasons you might have, what the "microsoft policy is." why "its just harder than you think." Cut it out. Its Christmas time. Bryce

        MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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        Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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        RichardM1
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        While I feel for you, do YOU want to do all the legal work in each country? The differences in laws are non-trivial, and making a set of rules that work for each and every country is probably just not worth the hassle and cost. It may even be possible, as different countries can have mutually contradictory laws, so that you CAN'T have a contest legal in all countries. Have you looked up the legality of walking down the left side of a road, with a goat, to determine if it is legal in all all cities and towns, in all counties, in all 50 states? And that is just the US. Every country has really stupid WTF? laws on their books. Lawyers do not come up with logical rules that mesh well with those of the rest of the world, they come up with weird, convoluted stuff that only they can interpret, so they continue to have job security. So, when you run the world, you can make the rules so that MS can give stuff away easy in all countries. Until then, realize that wishes are not horses.

        Opacity, the new Transparency.

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          US only. Listen up Microsoft - this is a global website. Pull your US centric heads in. I ask - how hard can it really be to organise a competition for the WORLD ? Everyone from India, to NZ, to weird foreign places where no one sensible would DREAM of living, like Christian Grauss at home in Van Diemen's Land, use codeproject, I'm sure there are even nerds in Antartica who log in. May I be bold enought to suggest that having a US only comp only reinforces the "US" and them situation ? And ...well lets just face facts, call a spade a spade and tell things like they are. This attitude/policy just isn't cool, groovy or even clever. We don't care what special reasons you might have, what the "microsoft policy is." why "its just harder than you think." Cut it out. Its Christmas time. Bryce

          MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
          Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

          Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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          martin_hughes
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          You made the wrong demand :) "Dear Microsoft, Send me a Kindle and I might consider trying Azure. Yours, ....

          Books written by CP members

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            You made the wrong demand :) "Dear Microsoft, Send me a Kindle and I might consider trying Azure. Yours, ....

            Books written by CP members

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            bryce
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            oh crap - i didnt actually think of that! :) bryce

            MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
            Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

            Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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              While I feel for you, do YOU want to do all the legal work in each country? The differences in laws are non-trivial, and making a set of rules that work for each and every country is probably just not worth the hassle and cost. It may even be possible, as different countries can have mutually contradictory laws, so that you CAN'T have a contest legal in all countries. Have you looked up the legality of walking down the left side of a road, with a goat, to determine if it is legal in all all cities and towns, in all counties, in all 50 states? And that is just the US. Every country has really stupid WTF? laws on their books. Lawyers do not come up with logical rules that mesh well with those of the rest of the world, they come up with weird, convoluted stuff that only they can interpret, so they continue to have job security. So, when you run the world, you can make the rules so that MS can give stuff away easy in all countries. Until then, realize that wishes are not horses.

              Opacity, the new Transparency.

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              bryce
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              rubbish old bean utter tosh. :) plenty of other companies can organise a world wide competition. in fact M$ can - the bloke said it'd be rolled out soonish if i read him correctly. The point here is that making it US only (even if it is just to start with) is pants. bryce

              MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
              Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

              Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                rubbish old bean utter tosh. :) plenty of other companies can organise a world wide competition. in fact M$ can - the bloke said it'd be rolled out soonish if i read him correctly. The point here is that making it US only (even if it is just to start with) is pants. bryce

                MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                RichardM1
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                bryce wrote:

                is pants.

                Sorry, I don't understand the term., though the context is obvious. :-O Do you put every company under this kind of requirement, or just MS? Given they are a US company, why shouldn't they start in that market? Does Fosters have to have a sale in the US if they have it in Oz? I am no MS lover, but if you think they have to do everything exactly the same for everyone exactly at the same time, you are being petty. Sounds like you are demanding political correctness out of them. You know they are going to give something away, and you are pissed at them for not doing it now, where you are. Patience, grasshopper.

                Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                • J Jeff Hadfield

                  The short answer: this competition brought to you by the US business unit of Microsoft as a pilot program before it can be rolled out worldwide. We hear you. Thanks Jeff

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  You could have mentioned the fact that this is open only to USA members in your sticky post.

                  Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                  • B bryce

                    and heres the rather to be expected reply to that: Why roll out a US only version first? "well we're going to do the rest of the world real soon" Why risk upsetting the target audience in the rest of the world? Whether or not you agree with it, Microsoft has a public face issue when it comes to issues like this. It is, however, cool when you do a worldwide release of Operating systems etc. But releasing stuff in this way does Microsoft's reputation no good - i'd have thought this was basic marketting ? (its friday, i'm not very articulate today) Bryce

                    MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                    Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                    Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Promotional gimics are run by the national business units of MS; not by corporate. Which means that the only thing that can be done is to guilt the other units into copying good ideas by making a stink online.

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • B bryce

                      rubbish old bean utter tosh. :) plenty of other companies can organise a world wide competition. in fact M$ can - the bloke said it'd be rolled out soonish if i read him correctly. The point here is that making it US only (even if it is just to start with) is pants. bryce

                      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                      Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                      Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                      Dan Neely
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                      The contest, or azure?

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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