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  • A abidaal

    Hello. I would very much appreaciate your help on the following topic. Does anyone know of programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers? thanks. abidaal

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    Simon P Stevens
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    Google code jam[^] doesn't have any prerequisite background requirements, but that said, it is generally algorithmic/maths based. Most programmers should at least be able to have a good stab at most of the qualifying round questions though even without any maths background. TopCoder[^] has a range of contests including components, design, algorithms, even testing and bug fixing I think.

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    • A abidaal

      Hello. I would very much appreaciate your help on the following topic. Does anyone know of programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers? thanks. abidaal

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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      Sure. There's whole heap of them at the ACU Conference[^] every April. Usually in the bar, after a long and enlightening day of brain wrenching fun. We use social dynamics* to determine the skills of contestants along with their debating skills on the merits of subjects as diverse as Vi vs Emacs and how best to get a session approved for next year's conference amongst all of the luminaries competing. * i.e. did they buy us a beer, and is it something interesting? My particular favourite was of course the tabs v spaces boat race. Spaces won this year, but the battle continues next April.

      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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      • A abidaal

        Hello. I would very much appreaciate your help on the following topic. Does anyone know of programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers? thanks. abidaal

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        You put four programmers in a room with a computer and a bikini model. The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          You put four programmers in a room with a computer and a bikini model. The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          Am I not the best then? :(( :((

          “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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          • N NormDroid

            abidaal wrote:

            programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers?

            I think you may want to check the VB contests page on the web.

            I wish I could tell you that the Monopoly guy fought the good fight and the Sisters let him be. I wish I could tell you that. But prison is no fairy-tale world

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            Media2r
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            Norm .net wrote:

            I think you may want to check the VB contests page on the web.

            Ouch... That's just mean. Besides, our resident Outlaw doesn't want people moving in on his domain. //L

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              You put four programmers in a room with a computer and a bikini model. The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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              SachinBhave
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              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

              The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.

              I think I wouldn't mind not being the best ;P

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                You put four programmers in a room with a computer and a bikini model. The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                1 21 Gigawatts
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                One voted? Someone doesn't like your jokes Nagy! (+5 I thought it was quite funny!)

                "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair Now reading: 'The Third Reich', by Michael Burleigh

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                  One voted? Someone doesn't like your jokes Nagy! (+5 I thought it was quite funny!)

                  "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair Now reading: 'The Third Reich', by Michael Burleigh

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  No worries. It was probably a salesman in here by mistake.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    You put four programmers in a room with a computer and a bikini model. The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    Where is this competition happening and what are the registration fees? ;P

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                    • N NormDroid

                      abidaal wrote:

                      programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers?

                      I think you may want to check the VB contests page on the web.

                      I wish I could tell you that the Monopoly guy fought the good fight and the Sisters let him be. I wish I could tell you that. But prison is no fairy-tale world

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                      abidaal
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                      hey.thanks for that. but I don't think I could find anything meaningful.. regards. ab

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                      • A abidaal

                        Hello. I would very much appreaciate your help on the following topic. Does anyone know of programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers? thanks. abidaal

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                        peterchen
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                        Not even a programming contest, and significance is debatable.[^] Still, interesting - at least seeing some hard science (well, harder than the next gurus gut feelings, anyway).

                        Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                          Not even a programming contest, and significance is debatable.[^] Still, interesting - at least seeing some hard science (well, harder than the next gurus gut feelings, anyway).

                          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                          | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                          abidaal
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                          this one seems interesting. but still they refer to thinkgs like some specific knoweldge in programming languages etc.

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                            this one seems interesting. but still they refer to thinkgs like some specific knoweldge in programming languages etc.

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Err, they specifically assume no prior knowledge beyond secondary schools maths [age 11-16].


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                              Where is this competition happening and what are the registration fees? ;P

                              CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              It was about 9 years ago and Mrs Wife has been very happy since I lost.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Err, they specifically assume no prior knowledge beyond secondary schools maths [age 11-16].


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                abidaal
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                                yes. but now I see that still those students have done some programming in the past will manage this better than the novices..

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                                • A abidaal

                                  Hello. I would very much appreaciate your help on the following topic. Does anyone know of programming contests that don't check for prerequisite background in algorithms/programming and mathematics, and is still used to identify good programmers? thanks. abidaal

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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                  A background in math and algorithms is required to be a good programmer. Without it you are destined to be just a competent programmer at best. That knowledge is a real eye-opener. Besides, programming contests that don't require algorithms and math are usually trivial. ... Have you considered Middle School? Logo for Learners (That actually requires algorithms)

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    You put four programmers in a room with a computer and a bikini model. The one who asks the bikini model to step aside so he can get to the computer is the best.


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    By definition the female programmer will win, then. ;P

                                    Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                      yes. but now I see that still those students have done some programming in the past will manage this better than the novices..

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                                      peterchen
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                                      What do you want to figure out actually? I expect someone calling himself a programmer to have some understanding of algorithms and math.

                                      Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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