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  • C Christian Graus

    I may try that. The latest Firefox is no better, which is why I am on IE.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    JimmyRopes
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    The latest Firefox is no better

    May I suggest Opera. I have been using it for years now and it is still less than 3% of the browsers out there. I consider it a security feature. Not that security by obscurity is any security at all, but put yourself in the hackers position. Would you write custom code to target less than 2% of the population when there are such target rich environments out there. Once I started using it I ended up liking it. Give it a try, you might like it. PS - it is also the most W3C complaint browser, but just getting your web page to render properly on Opera isn't the end of the story. You then need to get the big 2, IE and FF, to render properly. Most people use them.

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    • E Electron Shepherd

      harold aptroot wrote:

      Locking it to one core would free up the other cores.

      Free them up? They aren't locked. I don't think you understand how the Windows scheduler works. Write a program that starts a thread, and locks it. For example, the code WaitForSingleObject(GetCurrenthThread(), INFINITE); will do. Run it on single core system. Run four instances on a four core system. Notice that the whole computer doesn't lock up.

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      Lost User
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      What? That doesn't have anything to do with it - you are making the thread wait, not making it lock up the computer

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      • L LloydA111

        Was/is it some kind of server?

        If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Useful links:
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        Christian Graus
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        I don't know if it was intended to be, but it's a Mac Pro, I bought it new.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        • E Electron Shepherd

          Is it eight actual processors, or one processor with four hyper-threading cores? You can get a genuine 8 processor machine using Opterons, and the OS sees it as 32 cores, but I thought the Mac used Intel CPUs. Not a pretty as a Mac,but packing more punch[^]

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          Christian Graus
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          It's 2 lots of 4 cores, you got me there :rolleyes:

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          • D DaveX86

            I have no problems with IE...maybe you should quit screwing around with all your settings...you're obviously no good at it :)

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            Christian Graus
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            *grin* it's IE8 - vanilla.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              I have one processor and 1 gb ram. When ie loads a page I can compile a solution in visual studio, launch a WPF application and load the same page in chrome. When I am done doing those , ie finally loads the page. So, no I don' t have the same problem.

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              Christian Graus
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              IE8 ? I installed 8 when I installed all available updates to try to repro a bug that was reported to me.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C Christian Graus

                I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Sean Cundiff
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                8 processors or 8 cores? There's a big difference between the two. If it's 8 procs that machine is a beast.

                -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                • C Christian Graus

                  IE8 ? I installed 8 when I installed all available updates to try to repro a bug that was reported to me.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Dr Walt Fair PE
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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  IE8 ? I installed 8 when I installed all available updates to try to repro a bug that was reported to me.

                  Well, there's your problem. Sheesh, just do like MS and don't worry about bug reports. Then you'd still be blissful and without IE.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up.

                    IE is a POS. I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8. Which locks up all tabs when it's trying to load one tab. Which crashes numerous times, and which asks idiotic questions like "close all tabs" but doesn't leave me an option to automatically save all tabs (or something like that, the whole damn close thing is so obfuscated, just close the damn app and re-open it in the same state later on!!!) And what's with that "compatibility" button? Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly, without my having to manually click a button??? So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome. Marc

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                    Luc Pattyn
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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly...

                    For IE8 they did hire a guy who has actually read the HTML specifications. Some people seem hard to please. :laugh:

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                    • R Rob Graham

                      It's called indecision. Works much better with only 1 processor.

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                      Luc Pattyn
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                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      Works much better with only 1 processor.

                      and better still with 3 (or any odd number, the kernel sometimes needs a majority vote on tough decisions). :laugh:

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                      • S Sean Cundiff

                        8 processors or 8 cores? There's a big difference between the two. If it's 8 procs that machine is a beast.

                        -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                        Anders Molin
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                        8 Cores. I also happen to have one ;)

                        - Anders

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          *grin* it's IE8 - vanilla.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Are you saying you don't have any addons on your IE8? Not even Java?

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up.

                            IE is a POS. I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8. Which locks up all tabs when it's trying to load one tab. Which crashes numerous times, and which asks idiotic questions like "close all tabs" but doesn't leave me an option to automatically save all tabs (or something like that, the whole damn close thing is so obfuscated, just close the damn app and re-open it in the same state later on!!!) And what's with that "compatibility" button? Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly, without my having to manually click a button??? So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome. Marc

                            Will work for food. Interacx

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome.

                            Chrome's too pretty. I don't like pretty. I like to be able to find the things I need to click that make things happen.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            • S Shog9 0

                              You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions. It's a pig, a pig that regularly fails to produce tasty bacon, but still it's the best of a bad lot. And still there are folks that'll try to defend it. Stockholm Syndrome, I tells ya...

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions.

                              Actually, IE6 is the best. IE8 is only best for web developers.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • M Mark_Wallace

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions.

                                Actually, IE6 is the best. IE8 is only best for web developers.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                I was cleaning up a friend's computer the other day, and was quite happy to find that IE8 makes it easy to disable BHOs (which still appear to collect like dust bunnies in the machines of the less-than-tech-savvy). So yeah, best for the amateur tech support crowd as well... ;-)

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                                • D Dave Parker

                                  My whole computer locks for some time every time I try to access a network share in explorer. I'm guessing it needs a lock on some mutex that tons of other processes also lock *shrugs* I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for. I don't think # of processors makes a lot of difference to anything - single core single processors have been dealing with hundreds of threads for years - having twice the number of cores is probably no better than doubling how many instructions per second the processor can execute and 99% of the time the processors just idle anyway as every running thread is either waiting for disk or network, or waiting to acquire a lock held by something that's doing one of those things.

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                                  mincefish
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                                  This may be irrelevant, but I found that when they renamed a bunch of our servers, I still had some links in my Network Places (not mapped drives), and Explorer locked up loads. When I deleted those links, I found that Explorer started to respond much quicker - it was like before Explorer was trying to find the resources I had links to, even though I wasn't trying to browse those links. Who knows why...

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                                  • M mincefish

                                    This may be irrelevant, but I found that when they renamed a bunch of our servers, I still had some links in my Network Places (not mapped drives), and Explorer locked up loads. When I deleted those links, I found that Explorer started to respond much quicker - it was like before Explorer was trying to find the resources I had links to, even though I wasn't trying to browse those links. Who knows why...

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                                    Dave Parker
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                                    What's also annoying is that, since XP, network places seems to automatically add shortcuts behind the scenes to a place you've accessed without asking you - leading to tons of clutter which probably also slows things down.

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                                    • D Dave Parker

                                      My whole computer locks for some time every time I try to access a network share in explorer. I'm guessing it needs a lock on some mutex that tons of other processes also lock *shrugs* I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for. I don't think # of processors makes a lot of difference to anything - single core single processors have been dealing with hundreds of threads for years - having twice the number of cores is probably no better than doubling how many instructions per second the processor can execute and 99% of the time the processors just idle anyway as every running thread is either waiting for disk or network, or waiting to acquire a lock held by something that's doing one of those things.

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                                      Dave Parker wrote:

                                      I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for.

                                      Explorer loads asynchronously instead of blocking the UI thread in Weven. IIRC it was first done for Vista.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      • D Dan Neely

                                        Dave Parker wrote:

                                        I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for.

                                        Explorer loads asynchronously instead of blocking the UI thread in Weven. IIRC it was first done for Vista.

                                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        Dave Parker
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                                        That's good. Should be getting a new computer at work hopefully in a few weeks time now that the piece of crap I'm currently on is finally out of warranty. There's a chance it'll have Win 7 on it. Have a feeling some hackery will be required to get the VB6 SP5 IDE to work on it (the colossal app we have to maintain doesn't build in SP6, can't remember the reasons why), but will see how it goes....

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                                        • E Electron Shepherd

                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8.

                                          And perhaps some extra toolbars / BHOs installed, as is typical with a new computer? Try it on a clean system, and it works fine. Tabs don't lock other tabs when loading, and I don't think I've had IE8 crash once on either Vista or XP.

                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          re-open it in the same state later on

                                          That's what the 'reopen last browsing session' link is for.

                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly

                                          I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Think of the compatibility button as "enable workarounds for bad HTML". It is impossible to buld a browser that renders HTML correctly in all cases, since so much of the web is badly written HTML. (Take a look at the source for http://www.interacx.com/[^] for an example of mal-formed HTML).

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          Electron Shepherd wrote:

                                          And perhaps some extra toolbars / BHOs installed, as is typical with a new computer?

                                          Nope, it was a completely clean install.

                                          Electron Shepherd wrote:

                                          I think it's a bit more complicated than that

                                          Yes, I know. ;) Marc

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