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  • C Christian Graus

    *grin* it's IE8 - vanilla.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Are you saying you don't have any addons on your IE8? Not even Java?

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Christian Graus wrote:

      and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up.

      IE is a POS. I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8. Which locks up all tabs when it's trying to load one tab. Which crashes numerous times, and which asks idiotic questions like "close all tabs" but doesn't leave me an option to automatically save all tabs (or something like that, the whole damn close thing is so obfuscated, just close the damn app and re-open it in the same state later on!!!) And what's with that "compatibility" button? Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly, without my having to manually click a button??? So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome. Marc

      Will work for food. Interacx

      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome.

      Chrome's too pretty. I don't like pretty. I like to be able to find the things I need to click that make things happen.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • S Shog9 0

        You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions. It's a pig, a pig that regularly fails to produce tasty bacon, but still it's the best of a bad lot. And still there are folks that'll try to defend it. Stockholm Syndrome, I tells ya...

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Shog9 wrote:

        You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions.

        Actually, IE6 is the best. IE8 is only best for web developers.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          Shog9 wrote:

          You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions.

          Actually, IE6 is the best. IE8 is only best for web developers.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Shog9 0
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          I was cleaning up a friend's computer the other day, and was quite happy to find that IE8 makes it easy to disable BHOs (which still appear to collect like dust bunnies in the machines of the less-than-tech-savvy). So yeah, best for the amateur tech support crowd as well... ;-)

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          • D Dave Parker

            My whole computer locks for some time every time I try to access a network share in explorer. I'm guessing it needs a lock on some mutex that tons of other processes also lock *shrugs* I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for. I don't think # of processors makes a lot of difference to anything - single core single processors have been dealing with hundreds of threads for years - having twice the number of cores is probably no better than doubling how many instructions per second the processor can execute and 99% of the time the processors just idle anyway as every running thread is either waiting for disk or network, or waiting to acquire a lock held by something that's doing one of those things.

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            mincefish
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            This may be irrelevant, but I found that when they renamed a bunch of our servers, I still had some links in my Network Places (not mapped drives), and Explorer locked up loads. When I deleted those links, I found that Explorer started to respond much quicker - it was like before Explorer was trying to find the resources I had links to, even though I wasn't trying to browse those links. Who knows why...

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            • M mincefish

              This may be irrelevant, but I found that when they renamed a bunch of our servers, I still had some links in my Network Places (not mapped drives), and Explorer locked up loads. When I deleted those links, I found that Explorer started to respond much quicker - it was like before Explorer was trying to find the resources I had links to, even though I wasn't trying to browse those links. Who knows why...

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              Dave Parker
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              What's also annoying is that, since XP, network places seems to automatically add shortcuts behind the scenes to a place you've accessed without asking you - leading to tons of clutter which probably also slows things down.

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              • D Dave Parker

                My whole computer locks for some time every time I try to access a network share in explorer. I'm guessing it needs a lock on some mutex that tons of other processes also lock *shrugs* I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for. I don't think # of processors makes a lot of difference to anything - single core single processors have been dealing with hundreds of threads for years - having twice the number of cores is probably no better than doubling how many instructions per second the processor can execute and 99% of the time the processors just idle anyway as every running thread is either waiting for disk or network, or waiting to acquire a lock held by something that's doing one of those things.

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                Dan Neely
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                Dave Parker wrote:

                I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for.

                Explorer loads asynchronously instead of blocking the UI thread in Weven. IIRC it was first done for Vista.

                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                • D Dan Neely

                  Dave Parker wrote:

                  I'm still on XP though - have they fixed that problem yet cause it might actually be something worth upgrading for.

                  Explorer loads asynchronously instead of blocking the UI thread in Weven. IIRC it was first done for Vista.

                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                  Dave Parker
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                  That's good. Should be getting a new computer at work hopefully in a few weeks time now that the piece of crap I'm currently on is finally out of warranty. There's a chance it'll have Win 7 on it. Have a feeling some hackery will be required to get the VB6 SP5 IDE to work on it (the colossal app we have to maintain doesn't build in SP6, can't remember the reasons why), but will see how it goes....

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                  • E Electron Shepherd

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8.

                    And perhaps some extra toolbars / BHOs installed, as is typical with a new computer? Try it on a clean system, and it works fine. Tabs don't lock other tabs when loading, and I don't think I've had IE8 crash once on either Vista or XP.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    re-open it in the same state later on

                    That's what the 'reopen last browsing session' link is for.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly

                    I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Think of the compatibility button as "enable workarounds for bad HTML". It is impossible to buld a browser that renders HTML correctly in all cases, since so much of the web is badly written HTML. (Take a look at the source for http://www.interacx.com/[^] for an example of mal-formed HTML).

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Electron Shepherd wrote:

                    And perhaps some extra toolbars / BHOs installed, as is typical with a new computer?

                    Nope, it was a completely clean install.

                    Electron Shepherd wrote:

                    I think it's a bit more complicated than that

                    Yes, I know. ;) Marc

                    Will work for food. Interacx

                    I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome.

                      Chrome's too pretty. I don't like pretty. I like to be able to find the things I need to click that make things happen.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Mark Wallace wrote:

                      I like to be able to find the things I need to click that make things happen.

                      Heh. For a browser, I want it totally out of the way, because it's the web page where I want things happening, not the browser UI! Marc

                      Will work for food. Interacx

                      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                        I like to be able to find the things I need to click that make things happen.

                        Heh. For a browser, I want it totally out of the way, because it's the web page where I want things happening, not the browser UI! Marc

                        Will work for food. Interacx

                        I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        For a browser, I want it totally out of the way, because it's the web page where I want things happening, not the browser UI!

                        <MS IE Developer> I hear you. You want the ribbon. </MS IE Developer>

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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