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Math, circles, interior points and densities [modified]

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  • E Electron Shepherd

    Well, it is winter - it makes sense to use polar coordinates :-D

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    Pete OHanlon
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    • CPalliniC CPallini

      What about using rand() for both x and y coordinates and the discarding the point if it is external to the circle? :)

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      Yes, I thought about that a bit, but it felt as it would skew the density and give a wrong bias to the points with x/y values inside the circle. I cannot put words on that feeling, so it's probably plain wrong.

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      • H hairy_hats

        What about using rand() for radius and angle and not discarding any? :)

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        Johann Gerell
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        But that would just give a uniform distribution along a specific line through the center, which would give a higher density closer to the center. Right?

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        • H hairy_hats

          How about using a Sobol sequence[^] to generate the points?

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          Johann Gerell
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          Thanks - I'll read up a bit on that!

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          • H hairy_hats

            What about using rand() for radius and angle and not discarding any? :)

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            That'd cause a skewed density with bias to the center. Found a link: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DiskPointPicking.html[^]

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            • H hairy_hats

              What about using rand() for radius and angle and not discarding any? :)

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              that results in an entirely different distribution, as now the cartesian density is higher near the center. :)

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                that results in an entirely different distribution, as now the cartesian density is higher near the center. :)

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                Yep. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DiskPointPicking.html[^]

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                • J Johann Gerell

                  Yep. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DiskPointPicking.html[^]

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                  darts players would like it though, they'd hit bull's eye much oftener[*]. :laugh: [*] trying to keep it a loungy thread.

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                  • H hairy_hats

                    What about using rand() for radius and angle and not discarding any? :)

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                    Because it is plainly wrong. :)

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                    • J Johann Gerell

                      Yes, I thought about that a bit, but it felt as it would skew the density and give a wrong bias to the points with x/y values inside the circle. I cannot put words on that feeling, so it's probably plain wrong.

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                      I don't see the problem, namely: Assumed that

                      • X and Y are independent coordinates.
                      • rand() gives (pseudo)random numbers with uniform distribution.

                      extracting N numbers (with N big enough) will fill uniformly a square area. Finally cutting a circle from this area, gives you the requested uniformly populated circular area. Of course this is going on my arrogant assumptions... :)

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                      • CPalliniC CPallini

                        I don't see the problem, namely: Assumed that

                        • X and Y are independent coordinates.
                        • rand() gives (pseudo)random numbers with uniform distribution.

                        extracting N numbers (with N big enough) will fill uniformly a square area. Finally cutting a circle from this area, gives you the requested uniformly populated circular area. Of course this is going on my arrogant assumptions... :)

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                        [My articles]

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                        Maybe you're right - who am I to say? After all, I only have this "feeling" which makes me feel like my wife; she's full of them. Anyway, I'm following http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DiskPointPicking.html[^] now.

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                        • E Electron Shepherd

                          Well, it is winter - it makes sense to use polar coordinates :-D

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                          Well, you need to see the question from the right angle... :-D

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                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                          [My articles]

                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                          • J Johann Gerell

                            Maybe you're right - who am I to say? After all, I only have this "feeling" which makes me feel like my wife; she's full of them. Anyway, I'm following http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DiskPointPicking.html[^] now.

                            -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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                            That way you haven't to discard anything (that would make me feel like my wife... :rolleyes: ). I'm curious about performance, though: you may try both methods, compare them (for correctness and performance) and eventually write an article... :laugh:

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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