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Moving from 1.1 to 2.0

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    Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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    Nemanja Trifunovic
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    Mark Nischalke wrote:

    How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?

    I stopped at 1.1 and went back to 98 some 5 years ago. Now I am introducing the cool new 0x features to the team (of course, only the subset provided by VS 2010). Hopefully we'll make the switch some time this year :)

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    • L Luc Pattyn

      you could even do it without Notepad. :laugh: :)

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Me, for instance.

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        Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        In my opinion a successful migration is one that builds while only adding required functionality for the build to work. Thus a 2.0 migration is also a 3.5 migration. After successful you then add new features of the new build but do not change the old ones until they are broke.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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          Yes, but there can't be many who do, say, ASP.NET without using VS.

          Kevin

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          More reason not to do ASP.net. :-D

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            Server 2000 will be out of extendid support in four months, so I would imagine that would speed up migration projects quite a bit. //L

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            Doubtful. We still have clients working on programs in access 2.0. As long as everything works the client isn't going to upgrade.

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            • M Mario Luis

              Exactly. At the moment all frameworks post 2 are more extensions and enhancements, not base changes. Not sure about 4 though. Breakdown -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework[^]

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              Dan Neely
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              4 is new. Making the use old frameworks work in VS2k10 required a new round of being clever for the visual studio team.

              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                You don't need Visual Studio to write for any version of .net.

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                Dan Neely
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                True, but it's much easier with the IDE.

                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                  Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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                  It should be entirely painless and almost instantaneous to move from 1.1 to 2 or 3.5. Since 3.5 is really 2.0 with extra bits there's no reason not to go straight to 3.5. Anyone who panics about that really doesn't understand what they should about .net 3.5. I did this a long time ago with a huge app with both asp.net and winform interfaces and others and there were really no issues at all, it's a no brainer.


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                    Hi Mark, 1.1 is ancient history for me. I build for 2.0 on a daily base, I only go for 3.5 if the app warrants that, i.e. when new features are sufficiently relevant. and IMO LINQ is not. 3.0 is irrelevant, it is either 2.0 or 3.5 BigInteger will be sufficient to move a few apps to 4.0 in the near future. :)

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                    Luc Pattyn wrote:

                    3.0 is irrelevant

                    Unless we are talking C# vs. CLR. C# 3 is, like, way cool.

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                      Luc Pattyn wrote:

                      3.0 is irrelevant

                      Unless we are talking C# vs. CLR. C# 3 is, like, way cool.

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                      I was talking about CLR versions, but you're right, C# has its own version numbers. I'm not fond (yet) about the new goodies in C# 3.0, I'm actually quite satisfied with C# 2.0 and I definitely don't need the next PL/I language[^] :)

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                        I was talking about CLR versions, but you're right, C# has its own version numbers. I'm not fond (yet) about the new goodies in C# 3.0, I'm actually quite satisfied with C# 2.0 and I definitely don't need the next PL/I language[^] :)

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                        I <3 lambdas. No great shakes, but just plain cool.

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                          Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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                          Rocky Moore
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                          Have them shoot for 4.0 and be done with it :)

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                            Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


                            I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                            Gandalf_TheWhite
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                            Mark Nischalke wrote:

                            they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0

                            Without any reason :confused: I was working on 1.1 just 7-8 months ago and yeah have skipped 2.0. And now working on 3.5. One question : are you going to charge your client for this upgrade? As we might have same situation in very near time.

                            Believe Yourself™

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                              Mark Nischalke wrote:

                              they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0

                              Without any reason :confused: I was working on 1.1 just 7-8 months ago and yeah have skipped 2.0. And now working on 3.5. One question : are you going to charge your client for this upgrade? As we might have same situation in very near time.

                              Believe Yourself™

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                              Gandalf - The White wrote:

                              are you going to charge your client for this upgrade?

                              Of course I am, I don't work for free.


                              I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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