Yes, there is such a thing as a stupid question.
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"Hi,Can any one please give me starting help in transliterate in C#.thank You" I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
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"Hi,Can any one please give me starting help in transliterate in C#.thank You" I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
Brady Kelly wrote:
Re: Yes, there is such a thing as a stupid question.
No, only unanswered ones. This one is unanswered and will remain that way - until someone figures out what it means and makes an attempt to answer it. :^)
There are only 10 types of people in this world — those who understand binary, and those who don't.
modified on Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:48 AM
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"Hi,Can any one please give me starting help in transliterate in C#.thank You" I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
As I always say... "There's no such thing as a stupid question, just as stupid person asking it."
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"Hi,Can any one please give me starting help in transliterate in C#.thank You" I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
Brady Kelly wrote:
I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
Hi Brady, While we are free to judge the presence or absence of "meaning" for ourselves; it seems a reasonable hypothesis that, for the author of the question, it is meaningful (unless of course they are a troll, a malicious impostor, etc.). Being uninformed about how to express yourself in technical language, particularly when you are writing in a language that's not your "native tongue," does not mean you are "stupid." Let me ask you a rhetorical question : which, in the long run, is "better" for CodeProject as a "whole" : responding to such a question/query with : 1. Hi "xxx," I'm having trouble understanding what you mean; are you talking about how do you go about translating some code you have in VB or C++ to C# ? Please describe what you are trying to do as clearly as possible, thanks ... or ... 2. You are stupid. or ... 3. This is meaningless. By the way, I personally feel a response like this is quite appropriate for some questions : "Hi "xxx," Honestly I think you need to study some very basic aspects of .NET and C#; your question/query seems to me to reflect that you really don't understand, yet, the Event model in C#, and how Events can have multiple Event Handlers assigned to them. Recommend you get a good basic book like ... or ... and study Events and Delegates." best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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Brady Kelly wrote:
I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
Hi Brady, While we are free to judge the presence or absence of "meaning" for ourselves; it seems a reasonable hypothesis that, for the author of the question, it is meaningful (unless of course they are a troll, a malicious impostor, etc.). Being uninformed about how to express yourself in technical language, particularly when you are writing in a language that's not your "native tongue," does not mean you are "stupid." Let me ask you a rhetorical question : which, in the long run, is "better" for CodeProject as a "whole" : responding to such a question/query with : 1. Hi "xxx," I'm having trouble understanding what you mean; are you talking about how do you go about translating some code you have in VB or C++ to C# ? Please describe what you are trying to do as clearly as possible, thanks ... or ... 2. You are stupid. or ... 3. This is meaningless. By the way, I personally feel a response like this is quite appropriate for some questions : "Hi "xxx," Honestly I think you need to study some very basic aspects of .NET and C#; your question/query seems to me to reflect that you really don't understand, yet, the Event model in C#, and how Events can have multiple Event Handlers assigned to them. Recommend you get a good basic book like ... or ... and study Events and Delegates." best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
Hi Bill, Please note that I did not say the question asker was stupid, just the question and that my answer to the question, the first answer, was very much along the lines of your suggested answer, long before your suggestion. Nonetheless, the activity of learning a new language has long been steeped in the tradition of the noob being laughed at and (hopefully) corrected by the natives. Lets try and keep a bit of fun and be slightly derisive (maybe just on weekends) without getting too personal. CSS gets downvoted in the lounge for perfectly innocent questions, so cut me a little slack if I laugh at more laughable ones.
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Hi Bill, Please note that I did not say the question asker was stupid, just the question and that my answer to the question, the first answer, was very much along the lines of your suggested answer, long before your suggestion. Nonetheless, the activity of learning a new language has long been steeped in the tradition of the noob being laughed at and (hopefully) corrected by the natives. Lets try and keep a bit of fun and be slightly derisive (maybe just on weekends) without getting too personal. CSS gets downvoted in the lounge for perfectly innocent questions, so cut me a little slack if I laugh at more laughable ones.
Hi Brady,
Brady Kelly wrote:
I did not say the question asker was stupid, just the question and that my answer to the question, the first answer, was very much along the lines of your suggested answer, long before your suggestion.
Note that you did not include your answer (on a support Forum, I assume) in your post in this thread on the Lounge : so that wasn't "on the table" when I wrote my response. For most people telling them, or implying, their question was "stupid" will be interpreted as a statement that the person is "stupid" ... unless, imho, you have a "bond," social "history" with that person, unless a "social context," or "relationship," exists where it is salient to the person who's being told their question is "stupid" that teasing or impugning their question is not meant as a personal attack. In face-to-face personal encounter, social norms and non-verbal cues can moderate, mollify, verbal negativity via laughter, winks, nods, smiles, touch, etc. Not so on the "depersonalized" internet : for those who have not developed a sense of "membership," yet. To understand the above requires cultural awareness of "western" traditions of a higher "order," which many non-native speakers of English struggling to express themselves in technical English will not have. More on "culture" to come ...
Brady Kelly wrote:
the activity of learning a new language has long been steeped in the tradition of the noob being laughed at and (hopefully) corrected by the natives.
While it's true that some form of "initiation rite" or "hazing" is typical of some educational practices in western culture, and that western education sometimes involves teasing, mockery, even ridicule : for people from other cultures this is often definitely not the norm. I would substitute for the word "tradition" in your comment the words "in my experience" : I don't doubt that you may have experienced that yourself. Here in Thailand, where I live, Thais are "exquistely" sensitive to any public loss of "face" : and implying publicly that a question by a student was "stupid" would be highly insulting to a Thai : being Thai they'd never let me know they were insulted; they'd just "drop out." Or, come back for "revenge" later, smiling all the time. I remember, with horror, the year I taught in the French-American BiLingual School in San Francisco, running their first computer program for children. The French teach
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"Hi,Can any one please give me starting help in transliterate in C#.thank You" I'm not judging the poor English, rather the total lack of any meaning.
He obviously wants to write a translation program (in C#, unless that's a typo) so that he can type questions in his own language, and post them here in English. I think he should be encouraged for showing such initiative.
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Hi Brady,
Brady Kelly wrote:
I did not say the question asker was stupid, just the question and that my answer to the question, the first answer, was very much along the lines of your suggested answer, long before your suggestion.
Note that you did not include your answer (on a support Forum, I assume) in your post in this thread on the Lounge : so that wasn't "on the table" when I wrote my response. For most people telling them, or implying, their question was "stupid" will be interpreted as a statement that the person is "stupid" ... unless, imho, you have a "bond," social "history" with that person, unless a "social context," or "relationship," exists where it is salient to the person who's being told their question is "stupid" that teasing or impugning their question is not meant as a personal attack. In face-to-face personal encounter, social norms and non-verbal cues can moderate, mollify, verbal negativity via laughter, winks, nods, smiles, touch, etc. Not so on the "depersonalized" internet : for those who have not developed a sense of "membership," yet. To understand the above requires cultural awareness of "western" traditions of a higher "order," which many non-native speakers of English struggling to express themselves in technical English will not have. More on "culture" to come ...
Brady Kelly wrote:
the activity of learning a new language has long been steeped in the tradition of the noob being laughed at and (hopefully) corrected by the natives.
While it's true that some form of "initiation rite" or "hazing" is typical of some educational practices in western culture, and that western education sometimes involves teasing, mockery, even ridicule : for people from other cultures this is often definitely not the norm. I would substitute for the word "tradition" in your comment the words "in my experience" : I don't doubt that you may have experienced that yourself. Here in Thailand, where I live, Thais are "exquistely" sensitive to any public loss of "face" : and implying publicly that a question by a student was "stupid" would be highly insulting to a Thai : being Thai they'd never let me know they were insulted; they'd just "drop out." Or, come back for "revenge" later, smiling all the time. I remember, with horror, the year I taught in the French-American BiLingual School in San Francisco, running their first computer program for children. The French teach
Hi Bill, that was spot on. I always objected to the good question/bad question voting (as well as the good answer/bad answer vote, but that's a different matter), because it needlessly reflects on the author, lacks all nuance, and, well, there aren't many bad questions to start with. There basically is only one kind of question I would qualify as a bad question: a repeat question after it has been clearly and completely answered in the same thread; apart from that every honest question is a good question to me. And whoever doesn't like a question can skip it. :)
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Hi Brady,
Brady Kelly wrote:
I did not say the question asker was stupid, just the question and that my answer to the question, the first answer, was very much along the lines of your suggested answer, long before your suggestion.
Note that you did not include your answer (on a support Forum, I assume) in your post in this thread on the Lounge : so that wasn't "on the table" when I wrote my response. For most people telling them, or implying, their question was "stupid" will be interpreted as a statement that the person is "stupid" ... unless, imho, you have a "bond," social "history" with that person, unless a "social context," or "relationship," exists where it is salient to the person who's being told their question is "stupid" that teasing or impugning their question is not meant as a personal attack. In face-to-face personal encounter, social norms and non-verbal cues can moderate, mollify, verbal negativity via laughter, winks, nods, smiles, touch, etc. Not so on the "depersonalized" internet : for those who have not developed a sense of "membership," yet. To understand the above requires cultural awareness of "western" traditions of a higher "order," which many non-native speakers of English struggling to express themselves in technical English will not have. More on "culture" to come ...
Brady Kelly wrote:
the activity of learning a new language has long been steeped in the tradition of the noob being laughed at and (hopefully) corrected by the natives.
While it's true that some form of "initiation rite" or "hazing" is typical of some educational practices in western culture, and that western education sometimes involves teasing, mockery, even ridicule : for people from other cultures this is often definitely not the norm. I would substitute for the word "tradition" in your comment the words "in my experience" : I don't doubt that you may have experienced that yourself. Here in Thailand, where I live, Thais are "exquistely" sensitive to any public loss of "face" : and implying publicly that a question by a student was "stupid" would be highly insulting to a Thai : being Thai they'd never let me know they were insulted; they'd just "drop out." Or, come back for "revenge" later, smiling all the time. I remember, with horror, the year I taught in the French-American BiLingual School in San Francisco, running their first computer program for children. The French teach
Just wanted you to know that I'm far too tired to read all that. Hope you didn't spend too much time typing it. But I will note, however, that I've been called stupid many times. Thankfully this was almost always when I was actually being stupid. So it has probably been the most precious gift anyone has ever given me: reality.