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  • P Paul Unsworth

    Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

    oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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    Joan M
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    No idea, but there are programs like JDownloader (I think it was named that way) that disconnect the router from time to time to get new IP addresses...

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    • S Storm blade

      How old is your cable modem? My nephews had an old one from VM that had the symptoms you are describing, called them and they replaced it, connection is fine now.

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      Paul Unsworth
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      The modem is only about 7 or 8 months old, although it may still be the modem. I think I may have a spare in the basement that I could try out. Thanks :-D

      oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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      • P Paul Unsworth

        Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

        oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        User Error.

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        • P Paul Unsworth

          It is wireless, but I'm getting the same problem with wired machines. Communication between the machines on my network is ok. It's just the WAN. :(

          oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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          gartnerj
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          Even if a wired computer only, it could still be a cordless phone. I had an old cordless that when it rang, the entire internet connection would disconnect, even if I wasn't using anything via the wireless ports. It was intermittent, and only started happening some 1.5-2 years AFTER I got the thing, so.... The phone was pretty far away also -- I solved it by getting a new 1.9ghz cordless set.

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            Even if a wired computer only, it could still be a cordless phone. I had an old cordless that when it rang, the entire internet connection would disconnect, even if I wasn't using anything via the wireless ports. It was intermittent, and only started happening some 1.5-2 years AFTER I got the thing, so.... The phone was pretty far away also -- I solved it by getting a new 1.9ghz cordless set.

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            adudley256
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            The sad thing is, it could be the next door neighbour’s dodgy phone, and you have to deal with it.

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            • R realJSOP

              If that's the case, call your cable provider.

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              sabcov
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              My understanding is that if you don't have a static IP address, then I believe the router looses its' WAN connection when the provider changes the IP address on you.

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              • T The Real Geek

                I have been having a similar problem with cable (virgin) in south england on and off for a few weeks now. Reseting the modem solves it, as does reseting the firewall. Keep meaning to 'phone them but not had time yet.

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                Caslen
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                I have Virgin too (ADSL) the wireless is fine around the house but the internet kept dropping out. I eventually figured out that this only happened if the LAN port was enabled (which I use to connect at work). If I disable the LAN connection in Control Panel I get a perfect (but not that fast) internet connection. Not quite sure why it's happening though...

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                • P Paul Unsworth

                  The modem is only about 7 or 8 months old, although it may still be the modem. I think I may have a spare in the basement that I could try out. Thanks :-D

                  oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                  Johnno74
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                  I don't know anything about your setup, but here at home I've got a DSL modem running in "bridged" mode (it doesn't have its own ip address) and a linksys WRT54G plugged into that and using pppoe to establish the DSL connection over the modem. One day I started getting connection dropouts, and I had to reboot the modem or go into the router's management webpages and press "connect" to get things back. The PPPoE settings in the router were set to automatically reconnect if the link went down but for whatever reason it never did. I put tomato (3rd party open source firmware) on the router and had no more problems - if the connection drops then the router picks that up and reconnects straight away. Tomato has lots of other good stuff too BTW, I highly reccommend it if your router is compatible.

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                    I don't know anything about your setup, but here at home I've got a DSL modem running in "bridged" mode (it doesn't have its own ip address) and a linksys WRT54G plugged into that and using pppoe to establish the DSL connection over the modem. One day I started getting connection dropouts, and I had to reboot the modem or go into the router's management webpages and press "connect" to get things back. The PPPoE settings in the router were set to automatically reconnect if the link went down but for whatever reason it never did. I put tomato (3rd party open source firmware) on the router and had no more problems - if the connection drops then the router picks that up and reconnects straight away. Tomato has lots of other good stuff too BTW, I highly reccommend it if your router is compatible.

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                    Paul Unsworth
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                    I may give tomato a try. :) Does it allow VPN pass through? Thanks :-D

                    oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                    • P Paul Unsworth

                      I may give tomato a try. :) Does it allow VPN pass through? Thanks :-D

                      oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                      Johnno74
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                      Yep, it does. One other VERY handy feature is a SSH daemon. Enable that and then from your work or other computer you can create a SSH tunnel using putty which gives you an encrypted link back into your home network. Also, you can use putty as a socks proxy, you set it up and then tell your browser to use a proxy server on localhost:8080 or whatever, so then you enter www.codeproject.com in your browser and your browser connects to putty on that port which encrypts enverything and sends it over the tunnel to your router, and your router unencrypts is and connects to codeproject.com... So basically if you have a filter or an insecure connection everything is going over the encrypted connetion to your home router, and thats all anything in the middle can see. You can even tell putty to connect to your home machine via your normal proxy server, if you don't have a direct connection to the net. It can get a bit complicated to get your head around but its very cool and means if you are somewhere that has the most tightly controlled net connection you can use that to route everything through your home connection and basically get full internet access. Tomato also does very good QOS stuff and bandwidth monitoring. Thats its main strong point.

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                        Yep, it does. One other VERY handy feature is a SSH daemon. Enable that and then from your work or other computer you can create a SSH tunnel using putty which gives you an encrypted link back into your home network. Also, you can use putty as a socks proxy, you set it up and then tell your browser to use a proxy server on localhost:8080 or whatever, so then you enter www.codeproject.com in your browser and your browser connects to putty on that port which encrypts enverything and sends it over the tunnel to your router, and your router unencrypts is and connects to codeproject.com... So basically if you have a filter or an insecure connection everything is going over the encrypted connetion to your home router, and thats all anything in the middle can see. You can even tell putty to connect to your home machine via your normal proxy server, if you don't have a direct connection to the net. It can get a bit complicated to get your head around but its very cool and means if you are somewhere that has the most tightly controlled net connection you can use that to route everything through your home connection and basically get full internet access. Tomato also does very good QOS stuff and bandwidth monitoring. Thats its main strong point.

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                        Paul Unsworth
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                        Cool. So I could use that rather than VPN through the router to a VPN machine? That would be very cool as it would free up a machine that I could reallocate to another use. (although that machine is ancient... 400mhz processor, 128mb ram... I'm sure I'll find a use for it :confused:)

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                        • P Paul Unsworth

                          Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                          oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                          piba001
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                          I went through the same thing a few months ago. It was driving me nuts. I even replaced all the cables. I got so fed up, that, as a last resort, I replaced all the connectors on those cables. Problem solved. It seems that, even if you purchase (purportedly) good cables, the connectors may be bad (or, more likely, not connected properly to the coax cable).

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                          • P Paul Unsworth

                            Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                            oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                            Stephane_Roy
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                            I had to reflash mine, I believe it's a Linksys WRT160N (I can double check tonight once I back home). Now, it's working properly. I don't remember the version but I guess if you have the same router then I suggest you reflash with the latest firmware version. Many people had this problem and reflashing resolved it. http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/support/WRT160N/download Common sense is not so common. Voltaire

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                            • P Paul Unsworth

                              Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                              oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                              Matthew Edmondson
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                              I had this problem, its not a speedtouch is it? It turned out the time on the router was an hour out, and the MS time server wasn't responding. So I found another time server, the router collected the correct time, and its never happened since.....

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                              • P Paul Unsworth

                                Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                                oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                                ian dennis 0
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                                Last summer, I started getting the same problem with my home network. I was never sure whether it was the cable modem or router, so I contacted my cable provider who came out, couldn't find anything wrong but replaced the modem "just in case". A week went by but then the problem started up again. The router was old, so I bought a new one and installed it. A week went by, but then the problem came back. I replaced the cable between the modem and the router. A week went by, but then ... I then took my laptop chill mat, hooked it up to a USB hub off my desktop, and placed my cable modem and router on it. Since then, I've not had any more problems. My modem and router are on a shelf in a bookcase next to my desk, and they were overheating!

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                                • P Paul Unsworth

                                  Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                                  oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                                  Jason Christian
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                                  I had a similar issue, replaced the router and been golden ever since.

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                                    Cool. So I could use that rather than VPN through the router to a VPN machine? That would be very cool as it would free up a machine that I could reallocate to another use. (although that machine is ancient... 400mhz processor, 128mb ram... I'm sure I'll find a use for it :confused:)

                                    oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                                    Johnno74
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                                    Dpending on exactly what you are doing, then probably, yes. Drop me a line if you want any tips setting all up - john@johnsinclair.org Cheers

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                                      I don't know anything about your setup, but here at home I've got a DSL modem running in "bridged" mode (it doesn't have its own ip address) and a linksys WRT54G plugged into that and using pppoe to establish the DSL connection over the modem. One day I started getting connection dropouts, and I had to reboot the modem or go into the router's management webpages and press "connect" to get things back. The PPPoE settings in the router were set to automatically reconnect if the link went down but for whatever reason it never did. I put tomato (3rd party open source firmware) on the router and had no more problems - if the connection drops then the router picks that up and reconnects straight away. Tomato has lots of other good stuff too BTW, I highly reccommend it if your router is compatible.

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                                      asherw0202
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                                      I was using this same access point with a netgear 10/100 load balancing router to a cable modem. I was seeing similar drop out issues. I recently removed the router/AP combination and went with a LinkSys simultaneous dual N with four GE ports. The drop outs went away and I simplified my configuration

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                                      • P Paul Unsworth

                                        Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                                        oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                                        Dave Buhl
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                                        I had a similar problem not long ago. The connection would be fine then I would drop the WAN side out of nowhere. The problem I ended up having was the signal was degraded by splitting the connection to serve the rest of the drops in the house. You have to make sure your drop that feeds the cable modem is nearest the incoming line in the split tree. This makes sure you have the best signal strenght and quality for your modem. Something else to consider..... Keep an eye on the weather when you have issues. If it only happens when the weather is wet or you are watering the lawn you may have a damaged main line that needs repair. Hope this helps. Dave

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                                        • P Paul Unsworth

                                          Does anybody know what could cause a router to keep losing it's internet connection? I'm having to restart the stupid thing about 3 times a day, but I'm not convinced it's the actual router, or WAN connection... :| Any idea's?

                                          oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                                          mimimal subset
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                                          If you are downloading alot with bit torrents etc, you might try to throttle back the bandwidth that your download clients are using. They will lock up a router if they deplete the routers bandwidth. Most download clients have settings to limit upload and download bandwidth.

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