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  • P phannon86

    Nutters, I'm sure they'll go nuts when their account gets "hacked" :) I have a simple formula for my passwords, it's particularly handy for ones that need to be changed every few months. Even if seen, they'd look obscure to another person, they're strong (typically 2 uppercase letters, 3 lower case, 2 digits (and a random letter to meet length requirements on some sites)), and they're easy for me to remember :)

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    Simon P Stevens
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    phannon86 wrote:

    they're strong (typically 2 uppercase letters, 3 lower case, 2 digits

    7 char passwords are not strong. They are medium at best, even if you include non ASCII chars. For example, take the password AHekf52. It is following your scheme and looks random, but it's only 42 bits of data: See this[^]

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      See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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      Gandalf_TheWhite
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Gandalf

      :omg: Really? :~

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        phannon86 wrote:

        they're strong (typically 2 uppercase letters, 3 lower case, 2 digits

        7 char passwords are not strong. They are medium at best, even if you include non ASCII chars. For example, take the password AHekf52. It is following your scheme and looks random, but it's only 42 bits of data: See this[^]

        Simon

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        Ashley van Gerven
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        Is this more secure? ;P G4|\||>4|_|=

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        • A Ashley van Gerven

          Is this more secure? ;P G4|\||>4|_|=

          "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

          CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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          Simon P Stevens
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          Slightly, 50 bits.

          Simon

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          • P phannon86

            Nutters, I'm sure they'll go nuts when their account gets "hacked" :) I have a simple formula for my passwords, it's particularly handy for ones that need to be changed every few months. Even if seen, they'd look obscure to another person, they're strong (typically 2 uppercase letters, 3 lower case, 2 digits (and a random letter to meet length requirements on some sites)), and they're easy for me to remember :)

            He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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            realJSOP
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            My "everyday" password more than 15 characters with a mix of upper/lower-case characters and digits

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              phannon86 wrote:

              they're strong (typically 2 uppercase letters, 3 lower case, 2 digits

              7 char passwords are not strong. They are medium at best, even if you include non ASCII chars. For example, take the password AHekf52. It is following your scheme and looks random, but it's only 42 bits of data: See this[^]

              Simon

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              phannon86
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              Probably stronger than 99.9% of passwords out there given that sample data from the telegraph :) But like I said also, it's easy for me to remember. Out of interest, how strong does it get assuming I repeat the pattern again? So 14 chars, but there would never be repitition of a char or digit.

              He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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              • D Dalek Dave

                See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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                thatraja
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                i'm using aaaaaa for dummy things(ex. In my projects, more logins has password as this)

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

                  ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                  Abhinav S
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  "Dav456id" or "Col573ette"

                  Note: No special characters in those passwords. Hackers, begin your work... :)

                  Now...bring me that horizon. And really bad eggs...Drink up me hearties, YO HO!

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Aha! I'll use 654321! They'll never think of that one!

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                      Aha! I'll use 654321! They'll never think of that one!

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

                        ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                        ragnaroknrol
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                        I was helping man the phones when a major push went out recently. I share the cubicle with another intern. She said that night she had a dream where I kept telling her that her new password was Password and that she had to change it when she logged in for safety reasons. Every now and then she'll look at me, giggle and start reciting how to change the password. She's never had to touch the program but can change her password in it in her sleep now...

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                          Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

                          ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                          "Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue."

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

                            ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                            Stuart Dootson
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                            My passwords are more likely to include profanities, as I discover yet another different password that I need with yet another different set of restrictions on what you can use...

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

                              ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                              JHizzle
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                              and ask a classical music question: Who had the most number ones, Elvis or the Beatles? That's pre-downloads. *sees if anyone gets it*

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                                Probably stronger than 99.9% of passwords out there given that sample data from the telegraph :) But like I said also, it's easy for me to remember. Out of interest, how strong does it get assuming I repeat the pattern again? So 14 chars, but there would never be repitition of a char or digit.

                                He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                You'd double the number of bits, and each bit doubles the size of the search space. The problem you'd run into is a number of sites won't let you use a password that long (OTOH one of my banks insists on a 14 char password).

                                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  You'd double the number of bits, and each bit doubles the size of the search space. The problem you'd run into is a number of sites won't let you use a password that long (OTOH one of my banks insists on a 14 char password).

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  phannon86
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                                  I'm not sure if mine has a limit, but it insists on numbers only...

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                                  • A Ashley van Gerven

                                    Is this more secure? ;P G4|\||>4|_|=

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                                    CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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                                    • J JHizzle

                                      and ask a classical music question: Who had the most number ones, Elvis or the Beatles? That's pre-downloads. *sees if anyone gets it*

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                                      Dalek Dave
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                                      I get it too! :)

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                                      • J JHizzle

                                        and ask a classical music question: Who had the most number ones, Elvis or the Beatles? That's pre-downloads. *sees if anyone gets it*

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                                        Graham Shanks
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                                        I think you meant " a classic music question". I don't think either Elvis or the Beatles were exactly famous for their classical music[^]

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                                          I think you meant " a classic music question". I don't think either Elvis or the Beatles were exactly famous for their classical music[^]

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                                          Dalek Dave
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                                          Doctor Who Episode entitled "42" There are a series of questions that have to be answered to get through the airlocks after the ship is in Lockdown. Trouble is the crew were drunk when they thought up the questions.

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