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  • S Simon P Stevens

    phannon86 wrote:

    they're strong (typically 2 uppercase letters, 3 lower case, 2 digits

    7 char passwords are not strong. They are medium at best, even if you include non ASCII chars. For example, take the password AHekf52. It is following your scheme and looks random, but it's only 42 bits of data: See this[^]

    Simon

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    phannon86
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    Probably stronger than 99.9% of passwords out there given that sample data from the telegraph :) But like I said also, it's easy for me to remember. Out of interest, how strong does it get assuming I repeat the pattern again? So 14 chars, but there would never be repitition of a char or digit.

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      See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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      thatraja
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      i'm using aaaaaa for dummy things(ex. In my projects, more logins has password as this)

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        See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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        Abhinav S
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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        "Dav456id" or "Col573ette"

        Note: No special characters in those passwords. Hackers, begin your work... :)

        Now...bring me that horizon. And really bad eggs...Drink up me hearties, YO HO!

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        • D Dalek Dave

          See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Aha! I'll use 654321! They'll never think of that one!

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            Aha! I'll use 654321! They'll never think of that one!

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Dalek Dave
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            Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

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              ragnaroknrol
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              I was helping man the phones when a major push went out recently. I share the cubicle with another intern. She said that night she had a dream where I kept telling her that her new password was Password and that she had to change it when she logged in for safety reasons. Every now and then she'll look at me, giggle and start reciting how to change the password. She's never had to touch the program but can change her password in it in her sleep now...

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                Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

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                OriginalGriff
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                "Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue."

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

                  ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                  Stuart Dootson
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                  My passwords are more likely to include profanities, as I discover yet another different password that I need with yet another different set of restrictions on what you can use...

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                    Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

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                    JHizzle
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                    and ask a classical music question: Who had the most number ones, Elvis or the Beatles? That's pre-downloads. *sees if anyone gets it*

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                    • P phannon86

                      Probably stronger than 99.9% of passwords out there given that sample data from the telegraph :) But like I said also, it's easy for me to remember. Out of interest, how strong does it get assuming I repeat the pattern again? So 14 chars, but there would never be repitition of a char or digit.

                      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                      Dan Neely
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                      You'd double the number of bits, and each bit doubles the size of the search space. The problem you'd run into is a number of sites won't let you use a password that long (OTOH one of my banks insists on a 14 char password).

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        You'd double the number of bits, and each bit doubles the size of the search space. The problem you'd run into is a number of sites won't let you use a password that long (OTOH one of my banks insists on a 14 char password).

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        phannon86
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                        I'm not sure if mine has a limit, but it insists on numbers only...

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                        • A Ashley van Gerven

                          Is this more secure? ;P G4|\||>4|_|=

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                          • J JHizzle

                            and ask a classical music question: Who had the most number ones, Elvis or the Beatles? That's pre-downloads. *sees if anyone gets it*

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            I get it too! :)

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                            • J JHizzle

                              and ask a classical music question: Who had the most number ones, Elvis or the Beatles? That's pre-downloads. *sees if anyone gets it*

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                              Graham Shanks
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                              I think you meant " a classic music question". I don't think either Elvis or the Beatles were exactly famous for their classical music[^]

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                                I think you meant " a classic music question". I don't think either Elvis or the Beatles were exactly famous for their classical music[^]

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                                Dalek Dave
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                                Doctor Who Episode entitled "42" There are a series of questions that have to be answered to get through the airlocks after the ship is in Lockdown. Trouble is the crew were drunk when they thought up the questions.

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                                • P phannon86

                                  I'm not sure if mine has a limit, but it insists on numbers only...

                                  He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                                  Plamen Dragiyski
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                                  If the password hash stored is 256-bit (16 byte) (like MD5) each password except one with number of characters between 1-15 has a tween hash into 16 character password. That means 16-char password may have the security of 6 chars (even the same hash as 123456 :laugh: ). If you increase the num of characters you get even more collusions. BTW password I use for codeproject is 4% strong according to this[^]. :^)

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                                    Counfound them, ask for the first 25 Happy Primes.

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    1:)2:)3:)5:)... Works for me!

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                                      See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

                                      ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                                      Lost User
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                                      My Password is part of my phone's IMIE number and actual phone number :)

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                                      • A Abhinav S

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        "Dav456id" or "Col573ette"

                                        Note: No special characters in those passwords. Hackers, begin your work... :)

                                        Now...bring me that horizon. And really bad eggs...Drink up me hearties, YO HO!

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                                        Yoken
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                                        I usually run with a combination of size and character selections. Taking the "Gandalf" as an example mine would be: G@nd@lfTh3Wh1t3 other exampleas: >> C0rl3773Surn@m3 >> D@v1d$urn@m3 >> MyPuppy1$Qu173 stuff like that :) My standard types consist of 12+ length, 2 caps, 6 small 2special and rest numbers, all thrown together adhering to a certain "writing-layout" rule(s) I decided on.

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                                          See Here[^] I have actually banned PASSWORD from being a password. I assign all members of staff with their passwords, an example would be "Dav456id" or "Col573ette" these are safer than "Gandalf" (Which actually IS a Password on my machine for a specific purpose! Guilty As Charged Your Honour).

                                          ------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce

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                                          horia67
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                                          Ali G asked a banker once for the best PIN.

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