Windows Service Rant
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
You could just null the unused objects and maintain a count of them, and when the count meets a preset limit, call the GC on them.
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
eh, what can you do?
GC.Collect()
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
You could always force a call to the garbage collector.
Todd Smith
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
eh, what can you do?
GC.Collect()
I was going to write the same thing, but I thought surely the OP already tried this.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
eh, what can you do?
GC.Collect()
http://blogs.msdn.com/ricom/archive/2004/11/29/271829.aspx[^]
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected)
I don't think that would be expected. A local variable would be declared on the stack, and you should not see any visible change to allocated memory, so something seems fishy. I've written .NET services and I've seen this behavior. As other have suggested, try GC.Collect, not as the permanent solution, but to see if garbage collection actually does fix the problem. It seems to me there's something else going on, and GC'ing won't actually affect anything. Marc
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Two thoughts: 1) Is the service code somehow preventing the garbage collection running? 2) See http://blogs.msdn.com/willbar/archive/2009/12/17/tracking-down-a-net-windows-service-memory-leak.aspx[^]
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected)
I don't think that would be expected. A local variable would be declared on the stack, and you should not see any visible change to allocated memory, so something seems fishy. I've written .NET services and I've seen this behavior. As other have suggested, try GC.Collect, not as the permanent solution, but to see if garbage collection actually does fix the problem. It seems to me there's something else going on, and GC'ing won't actually affect anything. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
I don't think that would be expected. A local variable would be declared on the stack
Only if they are structs built out of structs. Classes are always allocated on the heap with a reference from the stack.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
eh, what can you do?
GC.Collect()
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
That.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
I don't think that would be expected. A local variable would be declared on the stack
Only if they are structs built out of structs. Classes are always allocated on the heap with a reference from the stack.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
Andy Brummer wrote:
Classes are always allocated on the heap with a reference from the stack.
Yeah, I know. I guess when he said "local variable", I was thinking something like
int foo;, notA foo=new A();Marc -
Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Check all the .net memory performance counters for the process. If you have a dangling reference then gen 1 and 2 will be growing. If it is just objects which are quickly released then objects should mostly live in gen0. Also if you are allocating large arrays, they can be allocated on the large object heap which has different cleanup behavior. I've allocated roughly 10 100 meg arrays causing the process to use an extra gig. Calling collect after the array went out of scope caused constant memory use, and then an object cache fixed it for final production use.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Classes are always allocated on the heap with a reference from the stack.
Yeah, I know. I guess when he said "local variable", I was thinking something like
int foo;, notA foo=new A();MarcI Did a double take after replying as I didn't see it was you when I answered. Kinda figured you were pretty familiar with the whole .net memory management thing. :laugh:
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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I Did a double take after replying as I didn't see it was you when I answered. Kinda figured you were pretty familiar with the whole .net memory management thing. :laugh:
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
Andy Brummer wrote:
Kinda figured you were pretty familiar with the whole .net memory management thing.
Yeah, after your reply, I figured I better CMA quickly! Marc
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Sounds like you have a good use for a memory profiler... a good one will give you info about held, reachable, and finalized objects as well as a lot of other memory details. I like to use JetBrains dotTrace[^]. * *I'm not associated with JetBrains in any way, just a happy user. Well ok, I did happen to get dotTrace free when I was a Microsoft MVP.
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You could just null the unused objects and maintain a count of them, and when the count meets a preset limit, call the GC on them.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Take a look at using Weak references[^]. It could be that you have something being held that could easily be released, such as an event.
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
You want to use less stack space? (OK that is a programming question) Add the following to you app.config (in the Runtime section):
<disableCommitThreadStack enabled="1" />
You might want to call
GC.Collectoccasionally too if you have plenty of spare memory.xacc.ide
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Actually this is probably a .NET rant. My newly developed service was slowly but surely using more and more memory. Surely, it couldn't be a memory leak because only managed objects where used! Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up (o.k., that is expected) but what I really didn't expect was for the memory to stay used when the value objects went out of scope! eh, what can you do? Sure the memory will be freed when garbage collection runs but it is embarrassing to see my service slowly take up more and more memory! Looks like I may have a use, after all, for my object pool code.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Turns out every time a local variable is declared (even a base value type) the memory usage would go up
BTW, it sounds like you are boxing the valuetype 'instances' (actually values) (which does have it's roles in a very few corners of the CS application space), maybe it is time to explore generics ;P
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