I have no idea why I am genuinely saddened by this
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
Resistance is futile.
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
As an ex-employee (for a few months) of Sun I am neither surprised nor saddened. I used Solaris systems extensively in my work before the Sun takeover and always thought they were great machines with a pretty good OS. The problem was that Sun really had nothing else to offer the market. When they bought us (StorageTek) our stock price had risen from $3 to $30 in about two years, Sun was languishing at $4.99 and going nowhere. That they bought us out was merely due to a large bank balance, but once that cash was spent they were back to square one without any real idea of how their business model for the future was going to work. Let's hope Larry Ellison has a better vision and the people around him to make it happen. And yes, I also miss pine and emacs, they had a sort of ascetic beauty about them.
MVP 2010 - are they mad?
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Resistance is futile.
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As an ex-employee (for a few months) of Sun I am neither surprised nor saddened. I used Solaris systems extensively in my work before the Sun takeover and always thought they were great machines with a pretty good OS. The problem was that Sun really had nothing else to offer the market. When they bought us (StorageTek) our stock price had risen from $3 to $30 in about two years, Sun was languishing at $4.99 and going nowhere. That they bought us out was merely due to a large bank balance, but once that cash was spent they were back to square one without any real idea of how their business model for the future was going to work. Let's hope Larry Ellison has a better vision and the people around him to make it happen. And yes, I also miss pine and emacs, they had a sort of ascetic beauty about them.
MVP 2010 - are they mad?
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As an ex-employee (for a few months) of Sun I am neither surprised nor saddened. I used Solaris systems extensively in my work before the Sun takeover and always thought they were great machines with a pretty good OS. The problem was that Sun really had nothing else to offer the market. When they bought us (StorageTek) our stock price had risen from $3 to $30 in about two years, Sun was languishing at $4.99 and going nowhere. That they bought us out was merely due to a large bank balance, but once that cash was spent they were back to square one without any real idea of how their business model for the future was going to work. Let's hope Larry Ellison has a better vision and the people around him to make it happen. And yes, I also miss pine and emacs, they had a sort of ascetic beauty about them.
MVP 2010 - are they mad?
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
I also miss pine and emacs
Pine I miss. It was a lovely little email reader. Nothing current really gives me anything more than what I had with Pine. I would happily go back to pine. Emacs on the other hand, yes I used it, but visual studio does so much more. I wouldn't go back.
Simon
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I respect sun for the vision ("The Network Is The Computer") they had but I don't understand what made them not take the lead??
Sun was born, because they saw the power of the RISC architecture. Digital had Alpha (even better RISC) years before Sun, but the internal combat within Digital effectively killed Alpha (later to be reborn in 5 years or so). By that time, Sun was shipping oodles and oodles of these cheap, FAST, workstations that destroyed heavy / mid range iron. But Sun's niche shrunk....
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
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Sun was born, because they saw the power of the RISC architecture. Digital had Alpha (even better RISC) years before Sun, but the internal combat within Digital effectively killed Alpha (later to be reborn in 5 years or so). By that time, Sun was shipping oodles and oodles of these cheap, FAST, workstations that destroyed heavy / mid range iron. But Sun's niche shrunk....
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
Sun predates RISC by a long way - I was using Sun 3 computers with 680x0 processors back in the 1980s...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
No surprise here, Oracle is too bound by Java to let this language to go under with Sun.
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Sun predates RISC by a long way - I was using Sun 3 computers with 680x0 processors back in the 1980s...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!
Absolutely..... but they weren't on my radar until the RISC machines ate my lunch ;)
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
keefb wrote:
I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now....
I disagree, mutt and Vim are clearly superior. They're all I use, home or uni. :) I guess I was just born a few years late.
Paul
The flight towards the light I'll stay in the lava for life Ísland
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
I also miss pine and emacs
Pine I miss. It was a lovely little email reader. Nothing current really gives me anything more than what I had with Pine. I would happily go back to pine. Emacs on the other hand, yes I used it, but visual studio does so much more. I wouldn't go back.
Simon
Simon P Stevens wrote:
I would happily go back to pine.
Why not relive your youth? Alpine is alive and kicking, and if you prefer a certain not-to-be-mentioned commercial OS, there's always PC-Pine.
Paul
The flight towards the light I'll stay in the lava for life Ísland
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Sun has been absorbed by oracle: www.sun.com[^] Possibly because the SUN Solaris systems at Uni (in the early 90s) where far better than any of the other machines available (to us Physics students at least) in the computer labs. I should chunter, on like an old man, about using pine & emacs as e-mail readers now.... :-)
CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks
Ya know the worst part... Sun bought MySQL. Oracle bought Sun. Oracle now owns MySQL. Now they CLAIM they're going to keep it alive... But come on...
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Ya know the worst part... Sun bought MySQL. Oracle bought Sun. Oracle now owns MySQL. Now they CLAIM they're going to keep it alive... But come on...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Ya know the worst part...
That's actually the best part :jig: MySQL is the saddest excuse of a DBMS that I worked with (and I worked with Access as well, in case you wonder).
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Ya know the worst part...
That's actually the best part :jig: MySQL is the saddest excuse of a DBMS that I worked with (and I worked with Access as well, in case you wonder).
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Except it's free, and it "just works" for web stuff... As opposed to the 100lb gorilla that is Oracle.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Except it's free, and it "just works" for web stuff... As opposed to the 100lb gorilla that is Oracle.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Hey, it was never meant to be a true RDBMS, but it's just right as a backend for forums/CMS/etc on anything less than an enterprise-level site. Besides, most amateur web developers don't want to fork over thousands of dollars for Oracle or Sybase. MySQL and PostgreSQL are good alternatives.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Hey, it was never meant to be a true RDBMS, but it's just right as a backend for forums/CMS/etc on anything less than an enterprise-level site. Besides, most amateur web developers don't want to fork over thousands of dollars for Oracle or Sybase. MySQL and PostgreSQL are good alternatives.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Hey, it was never meant to be a true RDBMS, but it's just right as a backend for forums/CMS/etc on anything less than an enterprise-level site.
Neither was i.e. BerkleyDB, but it is still a good piece of software; ditto for SQLite. MySQL is simply broken and the best thing for it to happen is let it die and convert all users to PostgreSQL or Firebird.