Calling all calorie counters.
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
I don't count them; I just watch them slide down my throat, like fat through a goose. :)
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peterchen wrote:
Because every body works the same.
They do in regards to what he's talking about. There are different body types, but your body will tell you when your hungry for your type. Most people just don't bother to listen to their body and eat how everyone else does irrespective of their current lifestyle as well. That's where the problem comes in. Most overweight people with low metabolisms for instance, eat for reasons like emotional comfort, to fit in with how the crowd eats, etc. rather than hunger. They aren't listening one bit to their body.
Jeremy Falcon
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If I'd eat everytime I feel hungry I'd weight twice as much. And I'm not slim t ostart with.
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.peterchen wrote:
If I'd eat everytime I feel hungry I'd weight twice as much.
Not true. You're probably used to eating poor calories and/or used to eating too much in the first place for your body type. While you adjust to something proper you'll feel hungry but that's only because the typical diet screws up the body in the first place.
Jeremy Falcon
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
I used to be on a 3400+ calorie a day diet in order to put on some weight. For estimating my intake I just used a notepad and a little handbook with calories for common foods. So, before a meal and at given intervals I'd just look at the running sum of calories I had consumed to that point and do a quick estimate of what I need to eat. [Edit] I should add that I used to plan my meals a few days in advance to avoid grazing.
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
For losing or maintaining, "block" systems like Weight Watchers or the Zone have worked well in our household. WW has really good recipes, too. Gaining has been much harder for me. Eat for the weight you want, not the current burn. I'm guessing weight training/powerlifting folks would have some good guidance (not bodybuilding -- you'd be looking to gain mass, not to lean out). Lots and lots of meat and milk. But there's no reason adding up the appropriate number of WW or Zone blocks wouldn't work for gaining. The advantage of block systems is that the weighing and measuring, while a hassle, does make calorie and nutrition counting more accurate.
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
There's an app for that. Basically used an app on my iPhone to input my weight each morning and after having told it how much weight I wanted to per week it would tell me how many calories I could have that day to reach that goal. The lower my weight the fewer calories I was allowed for the day. It also provided calorie tracking for common foods, including some restaurants. I lost 30 pounds in three months but then if flattened out for reasons I can't figure.
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
I've used the calorieking sites (and desktop software) to calorie count. Started off being completely anal about weighing everything etc but the most important thing I've found is portion sizes. You can have all the foods you want - but less of them (or sometimes more of them if you particularly crave vegies :)) After a while you get the idea of how big a portion of chicken/rice/biscuits is and can slack off a bit - but I generally go back to checking portion sizes as soon as I plateau. It worked on its own for a while (just calorie counting the food) with limited exercise a few times a week but as I edge closer to "goal weight" adding in more exercise is helping more - because there are limits to how few calories you can eat and still function. With the help of a heart rate monitor that counts calories burnt (based on age, weight, heart rate etc etc) - which is a better indication than the usual calorie software estimates of 4 cal per km running at XXkm/hr I've done WW before and whilst I lost the weight I kind of abused the system by eating like a rabbit for 2 meals then blowing out at dinner - all the while keeping within my points. I use a small notepad (the paper and pen kind) these days just to record what I've eaten so if it all goes horribly wrong at least I don't have to rely on my memory as to what I ate when. Every now and then I'll put it into calorieking to see how I'm going. A last note - one big thing I use calorieking for is to get the calorie count of recipes I'm making - put all the ingredients in and then divide by the servings. Am starting uni in a couple of weeks to change career to nutrition/dietetics ... it'll take a few years but hopefully will give me a change of pace after 15 years developing (although it'll be over 20 years IT once I actually graduate as a dietitian!!) Whilst I like the technical challenge of IT ... the BS that comes with it is more than I can take anymore ... well, I can take it while I study part time so that the bills get paid ...
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Follow three very simple rules and the body will take care of it itself. 0. When you're hungry, eat! 1. When you're not hungry, don't eat! 2. Don't eat sugar! Actually I'll add one more rule. The body tells you what it needs (except for sugar, and only if you listen), so when you feel like oranges, eat oranges, feel like beef, eat beef. It's all about the sugar levels in your blood. If you go hungry for to long, the level of bloodsugar becomes too low and your body raises the production of enzymes to better use the food when you finally eat. Do notice that your body overcompensates to allow you to store away energy for later use. If your sugar level is to high, the fatcells of your body takes care of that. Sugar is absorbed by your body without the need of enzymes, and thereby bypasses the regulationsystem of the body. Eating a proper cooked lunch and having a fruit every coffeebreak made me lose 15 kg. The funny thing is that I'm eating a more nowadays, not less.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
The body tells you what it needs (except for sugar, and only if you listen), so when you feel like oranges, eat oranges, feel like beef, eat beef.
That's dangerous advice, because: 1. Many poisons, allergens, and other harmful substances induce addictive behaviour, which would be translated as "the body telling you what it needs". 2. Many "Ooh, I fancy {enter ingestible name here}" feelings are provoked by seeing/hearing/smelling something that invokes a memory, so have nothing whatsoever to do with what your body needs. 3. It doesn't actually work. The body doesn't really know precisely what substances it needs -- let alone what complex foodstuffs might contain them. 4. The body's response mechanism to hunger (and most other needs) is hormonal, and hormones are terrible communicators who don't think before they scream at you.
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I didn't gain anything when I stopped smoking. None of the several times I stopped.
I lost weight after giving up smoking as I suddenly had enough breath to be able to enjoy playing sport again :-)
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
As for tracking, fitday.com, dailyplate.com, the many iphone apps etc are great at keeping track of your calories and progress. Until you start tracking what you are eating, you will not have any idea how many calories you are really consuming. As for methods for losing weight, at the core, it's extremely simple. To lose weight, eat fewer calories than your body uses. To gain weight, eat more than your body uses. A good way to go about this is to track your weight and what you eat for a couple weeks using one of the methods above. If you are gaining weight, reduce your calories by 100-200 calories and re-evaluate in a week. Unless you are significantly overweight, shoot for 1-2lbs of weight loss per week. One pound of fat contains roughly 3500 calories, so 1lb/week of weight loss means a 500 calorie deficit per day. As your body adjusts, your metabolism will slow and after a couple months you will have to lower your calories more to maintain your caloric deficit. Finally, you should eat more protein if you want to preserve your muscle mass while losing fat. If you are lifting weights a few times a week and maintaining a 500/cal/day caloric deficit, shoot for at least 1g of protein per pound of lean body mass - or less if you run or even less if you are inactive.
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
Lost 60 pounds and have kept it off doing simple calorie counting, using an equally simple Excel spreadsheet. Changed my exercise and diet--I now jog 5 miles a day and eat pretty much no red meat, although I really enjoy a Big Mac once a month. Magic formula for me is to keep net calories down to about 1000/day, which equates to 1700 gross calories, with about 700 burned jogging.
David Veeneman www.veeneman.com
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
There are many factors that go into weight gain and weight loss. Diet, lifestyle, consistency, genetics, general health and wellbeing... the list goes on. I personally think that no matter what you are trying to acheive, food, consistency and lifestyle are the deciding factors in whether or not you will acheive your goals. Food obviously plays a big factor. Avoid processed foods i.e. pretty much everything available at the supermarket, except for meats, fruit / veg / legumes, and low fat dairy. I'm not sure what your local is like, but ours has all of these fresh items around the edges - I rarely go into the other lanes. Eat regularly too - every 3 hours while awake is ideal (7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm), and skip the soft drink (coke / sprite etc.) - it is BAD. Exercise regularly. Not sure where this originated, but "sometimes is as good as never" is very true. If you only workout occasionally, you won't get the results you are after. This applies to food too - eating a healthy meal once every now and then is not good enough. These 2 factors really must be incorporated into your lifestyle. Don't diet. Don't go on a workout craze or buy some silly machine. Change your lifestyle. Make it a daily routine to get up earlier and exercise, eat well throughout the day, and get plenty of sleep. :)
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Whether for weight loss (or gain), or for specific goals (e.g. weight for boxing), I am interested in anything you would be willing to share with me on how you go/went about it. What logging systems, estimations, whatever, I'm interested if you are willing to share. BTW folks, I'm not interested in counting my calories so much as counting those of people that want them counted. :)
iPhone app "LoseIt" FREE Two $30 digital scales (one for the kitchen and one at the dining table) A good set of stainless steal measuring cups A good set of measuring glasses (bed bath and beyond as 1-3/4 glass cumbler cups with measures lines printed right on them. Easy to measure all juices or milk and drink directly. Plan all meals a day ahead of time. Never allowed to eat direclty from box or bag... I count every calory and have lost and continue to lose weight. Nothing works better than this... I thank Steve Jobs everyday for inventing the iPhone.