Toyota Acceleration Issues
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Most modern cars have power steering. If the engine were to be switched off you would then be in the position of not only going quite fast but also of it being potentially difficult to steer out of danger (although the steering should lighten at higher speeds). Best to stand on the brakes to attempt to slow the car to a stop.
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digital man wrote:
Best to stick it in neutral stand on the brakes to attempt to slow the car to a stop.
FTFY An engine with nothing being transferred to the transmission does nothing more than generate noise. I had a car where the gas pedal got stuck thanks to a floor mat. I didn't know what was going on, but I put it in neutral, applied the brake to control the car and then got to the side of the road so I could see what happened. Of course this was when I was young and fast. Nowadays I might not have the reaction time needed.
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
It can be quite easy to accidentally lock the steering when turning off the engine. :~
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Most modern cars have power steering. If the engine were to be switched off you would then be in the position of not only going quite fast but also of it being potentially difficult to steer out of danger (although the steering should lighten at higher speeds). Best to stand on the brakes to attempt to slow the car to a stop.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells
a) in some cars you can't turn the engine off while it's driving b) when you're going that fast you don't need power steering.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Because, unlike turning a key, which is almost like walking for most people, the new keyless controls all operate differently, depending upon who made the car. For most Toyotas, one must press the start button for more than three seconds to turn off the engine. Try remembering that while you're trying to control a car going 100 MPH! Oh, and once you turn the engine off, the brake assist no longer works! Ah, technology!
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
because they are, understandably, panicking. and a better solution might be to throw the car into neutral. the engines have regulators which will prevent them from over-revving.
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
The car in the car in front is a Toyota.
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Most modern cars have power steering. If the engine were to be switched off you would then be in the position of not only going quite fast but also of it being potentially difficult to steer out of danger (although the steering should lighten at higher speeds). Best to stand on the brakes to attempt to slow the car to a stop.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells
Think about it slightly differently ... how do you turn a car off, in a modern car? What happens to the steering wheel when you do so? You would have to turn it off and then remember to advance the key to run. Otherwise the wheel would lock!
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People are stupid. I was going to make a long post describing my statement but there is no need. Those that are stupid will argue and those that aren't don't need an explanation.
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Have you ever drove a car on a crowded highway? If not, it’s okay, otherwise you are stupid. And no, there is no third option.
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If you have a car with a manual gearbox! You really can't do that in an automatic and it is probably asking too much of most drivers to do both whilst heartily panicking :-)
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You can put into neutral gear in an automatic transmission.
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Because there is no unintended acceleration and all you're hearing is stories. (The issue isn't unintended acceleration but that on some Toyotas the gas pedal became stuck when released. People have extrapolated that that could result in the transmission downshifting, etc. but that's not what's claimed. Just like with the Audi issue, its very likely a problem with people panicking and pushing down on the accelerator pedal rather than pushing the brake. In that state of panic, turning off the engine just doesn't occur to people [something that actually has been tested with experimentation.] They don't think of putting the car into neutral either, which to my knowledge can be done with ANY car by law, and especially the cars in question.)
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Have you ever drove a car on a crowded highway? If not, it’s okay, otherwise you are stupid. And no, there is no third option.
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Like I said
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You can put into neutral gear in an automatic transmission.
Plus its a lot easier to do so, no pesky clutch to deal with. In my car it takes quite a feat of strength to get the car out of gear without a clutch (You know in-case the clutch and the accelerator fail at the same time) wheras in an automatic an accidental tap is enough to bring neutral.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Most modern cars have power steering. If the engine were to be switched off you would then be in the position of not only going quite fast but also of it being potentially difficult to steer out of danger (although the steering should lighten at higher speeds). Best to stand on the brakes to attempt to slow the car to a stop.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells
As long as the road is straight, you could briefly switch the key off (not so far that the steering lock engages ofc) until you see the rev needle dropping then switch it back on with the car in neutral. Even without that I'd rather have slightly heavy steering than a fully revving engine It often seems that many people react to a bad situation with the rabbit in the headlight approach. You've got a problem and you can opt to spend the rest of your life ignoring it or you can do something about it.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Most modern cars have power steering. If the engine were to be switched off you would then be in the position of not only going quite fast but also of it being potentially difficult to steer out of danger (although the steering should lighten at higher speeds). Best to stand on the brakes to attempt to slow the car to a stop.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells
digital man wrote:
Most modern cars have power steering.
I wondered how long it would take for someone to point out the obvious. Either there are a lot of non-drivers posting here, or the highways are even more dangerous than I thought. Congrats on winning the IQ award for the day. By the way: as I imagine you know, the proper procedure is to put the transmission in neutral. This gives you steering (and brakes) without acceleration
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I am English, and over here only old ladies and bad drivers use automatics...
Just racking up the postings
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a) in some cars you can't turn the engine off while it's driving b) when you're going that fast you don't need power steering.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
in some cars you can't turn the engine off while it's driving
I'm curious as to what cars do that. I keep hearing this claim, but nobody ever names the cars.
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Try it yourself with your car. I guarantee you the loss of power-stearing (and the associated heaviness of the stearing due to having to turn the wheels and power stearing system) is just as scary as unintended acceleration. A better question would be; why don't they just limit their speed using the gearbox. And the answer; Americans don't know how to drive manual transmission cars.
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I can't understand the stories of people who crashed after going 100+ mph in Toyota cars due to unintended acceleration. Why don't people just turn off the engine?
Not everyone is a F1 driver. The day people understand this, things would be better. If you can't handle speed, don't play with it. Simple enough, isn't it? And you don't need to die or get injured to understand this.
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