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  • D Dalek Dave

    Actually as diabetes is a medical condition and this could cause you major health problems you will find that they are legally obliged to supply you with an alternative otherwise they would be in breach of discrimination laws.

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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    Maximilien
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    they are required to supply alternative for something that you are not obligated to drink ?:confused:

    Watched code never compiles.

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      NOOO! Tell me it isn't true - coffee is bad for you? Oh well, it can go in the list: Butter Salt Sugar Red meat Chicken Eggs Alcohol Tobacco Dope and now Coffee. Let's just add Air to the list and be done with it, eh? Why is it that everything you enjoy doing, eating, or drinking will be declared bad for you by someone?And why is it generally someone who either doesn't do it, eat it or drink it, or who doesn't want us to know they do it, eat it, or drink it? Gotta go - I need some more caffeine... Mmmmm!

      You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace

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      Abhinav S
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      You missed Chocolate - that's bad as well.

      Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.
      Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...

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      • J JHizzle

        I like my coffee, I really do, sadly or rather not so, I changed jobs recently and the new place offers free machine coffee (rather than a kitchen in the last place). Issue - the blasted whitener is made from corn syrup and I'm diabetic. I really don't want to go on a blind aimless rage because the people here are actually really nice, especially immediate boss who tried her best to get it changed over. Response from HR was "we are not required to provide these facilities and there are alternate sources available" which, while the whole message was generally snippy, I can sort of understand (alternate sources being the canteen so, paying for it). Unfortunately the canteen is a bit extortionate so I'm on sugarfree Red Bull which is giving me the pickup for less but can anyone recommend anything else? (Yes, i've tried black coffee too but the powder cakes the tubing apparently because without eating anything else, my levels have gone up 2 mmol within the space of a morning)

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        JHizzle wrote:

        Yes, i've tried black coffee too but the powder cakes the tubing apparently because without eating anything else, my levels have gone up 2 mmol within the space of a morning

        I suppose you're right. I always choose (expresso) coffee without sugar, but there's a bit of sugar, I can taste it. :)

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        • A Abhinav S

          You missed Chocolate - that's bad as well.

          Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.
          Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...

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          OriginalGriff
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          Nooo!!!!! Actually, it is good for you - prevents cancer and heart disease[^]. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it!

          You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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            they are required to supply alternative for something that you are not obligated to drink ?:confused:

            Watched code never compiles.

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            Dalek Dave
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            If they are supplying to people who are not diabetic, then they must supply for those who are, else there is a discrimination and that would be illegal. Alternatively they could just not supply coffee to anyone, that way there is no discrimination.

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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            • D Dalek Dave

              If they are supplying to people who are not diabetic, then they must supply for those who are, else there is a discrimination and that would be illegal. Alternatively they could just not supply coffee to anyone, that way there is no discrimination.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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              JHizzle
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              Sadly that was the general tone of the email we got back from HR. There are apparently other diabetics in the building and they haven't complained. I'm thinking that that's because they aren't actually aware of it, I only narrowed it down because I was wondering why I was spiking so much so cut out the variables til I found the right one. Debugging the morning routine so to speak. Actually most of the department was pretty shocked at it and were outraged that there was nothing to indicate that the whitener was so high in sugar, we stole the bag off the guy who was refilling it to check out the ingredients. Currently we're trying other things like seeing if we can get a small fridge for milk because there is a pure hot water machine so that plus tea would be ok.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                NOOO! Tell me it isn't true - coffee is bad for you? Oh well, it can go in the list: Butter Salt Sugar Red meat Chicken Eggs Alcohol Tobacco Dope and now Coffee. Let's just add Air to the list and be done with it, eh? Why is it that everything you enjoy doing, eating, or drinking will be declared bad for you by someone?And why is it generally someone who either doesn't do it, eat it or drink it, or who doesn't want us to know they do it, eat it, or drink it? Gotta go - I need some more caffeine... Mmmmm!

                You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace

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                JHizzle
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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                Let's just add Air to the list and be done with it, eh?

                It is though, it causes aging in biological organisms, oxidization in metal and fermentation in breweries. Wait that last one's not so bad. :laugh:

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                • A Abhinav S

                  Top [^]10 coffee alternatives to avoid the side effects of caffeine.

                  Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.
                  Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...

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                  Cheers, may see if mum'll grab some teas for me when she hits the chinese cash n carry again.

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                  • J JHizzle

                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Let's just add Air to the list and be done with it, eh?

                    It is though, it causes aging in biological organisms, oxidization in metal and fermentation in breweries. Wait that last one's not so bad. :laugh:

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    JHizzle wrote:

                    It is though, it causes aging in biological organisms, oxidization in metal and fermentation in breweries. Wait that last one's not so bad.

                    Nor is the first one, considering the alternative...[^]

                    You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • J JHizzle

                      I like my coffee, I really do, sadly or rather not so, I changed jobs recently and the new place offers free machine coffee (rather than a kitchen in the last place). Issue - the blasted whitener is made from corn syrup and I'm diabetic. I really don't want to go on a blind aimless rage because the people here are actually really nice, especially immediate boss who tried her best to get it changed over. Response from HR was "we are not required to provide these facilities and there are alternate sources available" which, while the whole message was generally snippy, I can sort of understand (alternate sources being the canteen so, paying for it). Unfortunately the canteen is a bit extortionate so I'm on sugarfree Red Bull which is giving me the pickup for less but can anyone recommend anything else? (Yes, i've tried black coffee too but the powder cakes the tubing apparently because without eating anything else, my levels have gone up 2 mmol within the space of a morning)

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Red pu-ehr. It tastes great, it picks you up, and you get its stoopid name to talk about.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • A Abhinav S

                        You missed Chocolate - that's bad as well.

                        Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.
                        Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...

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                        HimanshuJoshi
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                        both of you forgot dihydrogen monoxide [^]. That's really bad for your health

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                        • J JHizzle

                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Let's just add Air to the list and be done with it, eh?

                          It is though, it causes aging in biological organisms, oxidization in metal and fermentation in breweries. Wait that last one's not so bad. :laugh:

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                          Russell Jones
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                          JHizzle wrote:

                          and fermentation in breweries.

                          I think you need to go back to biotech 101 :thumbsdown:

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                          • J JHizzle

                            I like my coffee, I really do, sadly or rather not so, I changed jobs recently and the new place offers free machine coffee (rather than a kitchen in the last place). Issue - the blasted whitener is made from corn syrup and I'm diabetic. I really don't want to go on a blind aimless rage because the people here are actually really nice, especially immediate boss who tried her best to get it changed over. Response from HR was "we are not required to provide these facilities and there are alternate sources available" which, while the whole message was generally snippy, I can sort of understand (alternate sources being the canteen so, paying for it). Unfortunately the canteen is a bit extortionate so I'm on sugarfree Red Bull which is giving me the pickup for less but can anyone recommend anything else? (Yes, i've tried black coffee too but the powder cakes the tubing apparently because without eating anything else, my levels have gone up 2 mmol within the space of a morning)

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                            Russell Jones
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                            I bought a mug from Robert Dyas that has a plunger in the style of a french press I think it cost about a fiver. Instead of drinking Americano at £1.30 from the work canteen I buy Java Taste the difference coffee from the supermarket at 2 for £4 for a saving of £100 a month.

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                              JHizzle wrote:

                              and fermentation in breweries.

                              I think you need to go back to biotech 101 :thumbsdown:

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                              JHizzle
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                              Why so? I was using the beer making definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewing#Fermenting[^] "After the wort is cooled and aerated — usually with sterile air — yeast is added to it, and it begins to ferment."

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                              • J JHizzle

                                Why so? I was using the beer making definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewing#Fermenting[^] "After the wort is cooled and aerated — usually with sterile air — yeast is added to it, and it begins to ferment."

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                                Russell Jones
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                                I'm not sure why the mix is aerated - possibly so that the yeast a means of survival other than fermentation as fermentation is not hugely efficient. Fermentation is an anaerobic process though, creating alcohol and co2 without the use of oxygen (there are other fermentation processes too such as lactic fermentation as seen in Sauerkraut)

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                                • H HimanshuJoshi

                                  both of you forgot dihydrogen monoxide [^]. That's really bad for your health

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                                  Abhinav S
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                                  Oh come on - not that too?? :)

                                  Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.
                                  Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...

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                                  • J JHizzle

                                    Sadly that was the general tone of the email we got back from HR. There are apparently other diabetics in the building and they haven't complained. I'm thinking that that's because they aren't actually aware of it, I only narrowed it down because I was wondering why I was spiking so much so cut out the variables til I found the right one. Debugging the morning routine so to speak. Actually most of the department was pretty shocked at it and were outraged that there was nothing to indicate that the whitener was so high in sugar, we stole the bag off the guy who was refilling it to check out the ingredients. Currently we're trying other things like seeing if we can get a small fridge for milk because there is a pure hot water machine so that plus tea would be ok.

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                                    Wjousts
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                                    JHizzle wrote:

                                    Currently we're trying other things like seeing if we can get a small fridge for milk because there is a pure hot water machine so that plus tea would be ok.

                                    NO! Sorry, I have to jump in here. You don't make tea with hot water. You make tea with BOILING water. Buy a kettle for your office and you're good to go. I convinced my boss to buy a kettle for our lab and I keep a small bottle of milk in the fridge. I have a box of tea bags and a box of splenda and I'm all set.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Actually as diabetes is a medical condition and this could cause you major health problems you will find that they are legally obliged to supply you with an alternative otherwise they would be in breach of discrimination laws.

                                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                      David Crow
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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      ...you will find that they are legally obliged to supply you with an alternative...

                                      No such law exists. Water (it doesn't have to be cold or convenient) is the only thing required.

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                                      • J JHizzle

                                        I like my coffee, I really do, sadly or rather not so, I changed jobs recently and the new place offers free machine coffee (rather than a kitchen in the last place). Issue - the blasted whitener is made from corn syrup and I'm diabetic. I really don't want to go on a blind aimless rage because the people here are actually really nice, especially immediate boss who tried her best to get it changed over. Response from HR was "we are not required to provide these facilities and there are alternate sources available" which, while the whole message was generally snippy, I can sort of understand (alternate sources being the canteen so, paying for it). Unfortunately the canteen is a bit extortionate so I'm on sugarfree Red Bull which is giving me the pickup for less but can anyone recommend anything else? (Yes, i've tried black coffee too but the powder cakes the tubing apparently because without eating anything else, my levels have gone up 2 mmol within the space of a morning)

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                                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                        I used to take a small container of concentrated coffee with me to work. Put a little in a cup, add hot water, and you have brewed coffee taste. A cup of the concentrate will make a whole pot of coffee, then add sweetners and milk as you please. I also learned to like coffee black, so I wouldn't have any problem drinking whatever was available.

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                                        Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                        • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                          I used to take a small container of concentrated coffee with me to work. Put a little in a cup, add hot water, and you have brewed coffee taste. A cup of the concentrate will make a whole pot of coffee, then add sweetners and milk as you please. I also learned to like coffee black, so I wouldn't have any problem drinking whatever was available.

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                                          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                                          I also learned to like coffee black, so I wouldn't have any problem drinking whatever was available.

                                          Isn't that like learning to enjoy hitting your toes with a hammer so you won't have any problem when you drop something on them? :laugh:

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