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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    I just saw this[^] on Google News today and I'm wondering if I caught that. Rootkit Authors Issue Patch For Critical Bug[^] I'll try the patch when I go home tonight.

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      I just saw this[^] on Google News today and I'm wondering if I caught that. Rootkit Authors Issue Patch For Critical Bug[^] I'll try the patch when I go home tonight.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

      I'll try the patch when I go home tonight.

      Absolutely! I always install patches from virus makers; it makes the viruses work better!

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

        I'll try the patch when I go home tonight.

        Absolutely! I always install patches from virus makers; it makes the viruses work better!

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Bassam Abdul Baki
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        I already have something that's undetected. May as well give this a shot.

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          I already have something that's undetected. May as well give this a shot.

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          dan_fish
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          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

          I already have something that's undetected

          How do you know?

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            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

            I already have something that's undetected

            How do you know?

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Unagi!

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              I already have something that's undetected. May as well give this a shot.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              By installing something that is written by people who want to invade your computer? Better to format or scrap the drive, flash the BIOS, do anything rather than trust such sterling examples of gentlepeople.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                By installing something that is written by people who want to invade your computer? Better to format or scrap the drive, flash the BIOS, do anything rather than trust such sterling examples of gentlepeople.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                I'm not ready to format yet. And besides, I'm not using it for online banking or anything important, so it's fine there. I am curious to see if the patch will fix my problems because I've had the symptoms that they described which started last week. So I'm thinking they should be related.

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                  I'm not ready to format yet. And besides, I'm not using it for online banking or anything important, so it's fine there. I am curious to see if the patch will fix my problems because I've had the symptoms that they described which started last week. So I'm thinking they should be related.

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Haven't you considered the possibility that this "fix" will permanently and immutably give them free rein to run rampant over your computer? Better to throw the thing on the scrapheap.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Haven't you considered the possibility that this "fix" will permanently and immutably give them free rein to run rampant over your computer? Better to throw the thing on the scrapheap.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    I've already lost that laptop. Every anti-virus and malware software out there can't seem to find it. I have nothing to lose at this moment. I just want to see what happens after I install it. I'll probably end up formatting it eventually.

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                      I've already lost that laptop. Every anti-virus and malware software out there can't seem to find it. I have nothing to lose at this moment. I just want to see what happens after I install it. I'll probably end up formatting it eventually.

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                      Rod Kemp
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                      I would try RootkitRevealer[^] first, at least it should show you if there is something there.

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                        I would try RootkitRevealer[^] first, at least it should show you if there is something there.

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Thanks! I tried another one that found nothing. I'll try this one too since SysInternals was always good at what it does.

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                          I've already lost that laptop. Every anti-virus and malware software out there can't seem to find it. I have nothing to lose at this moment. I just want to see what happens after I install it. I'll probably end up formatting it eventually.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Well, just make sure that you never connect to a network - any network - with the machine after installing such a monster. They have killed your machine, but installing the "update" will allow them to own it; you will be voluntarily giving them the opportunity to make any changes they want.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Well, just make sure that you never connect to a network - any network - with the machine after installing such a monster. They have killed your machine, but installing the "update" will allow them to own it; you will be voluntarily giving them the opportunity to make any changes they want.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            That's assuming that the rootkit remover isn't what they're claiming it is. :)

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                              Unagi!

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                              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                              Unagi!

                              Fresh water eels?[^] :wtf:

                              You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                Unagi!

                                Fresh water eels?[^] :wtf:

                                You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Unagi[^]

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                                  Unagi[^]

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                                  dan_fish
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                                  That's cleared that up then! Go on - explain (I do like a freshwater eel - I had some nice ones in Portugal last year, but I'm struggling to get the connection here).

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                                    That's cleared that up then! Go on - explain (I do like a freshwater eel - I had some nice ones in Portugal last year, but I'm struggling to get the connection here).

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                                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                    It's from Friends - a US TV show.

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                                      By installing something that is written by people who want to invade your computer? Better to format or scrap the drive, flash the BIOS, do anything rather than trust such sterling examples of gentlepeople.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Lilith C
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                                      Reformatting the drive doesn't help with this virus. It installs in sector zero and manipulates things so you can't touch that sector under Windows. My roommate found you could access it from Linux and squash it.

                                      I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                                        Well, just make sure that you never connect to a network - any network - with the machine after installing such a monster. They have killed your machine, but installing the "update" will allow them to own it; you will be voluntarily giving them the opportunity to make any changes they want.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        patbob
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                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        installing the "update" will allow them to own it; you will be voluntarily giving them the opportunity to make any changes they want.

                                        Like what.. they need your permission? If their rootkit is already there, there's absolutely nothing you can do that will give them more control over your system than they already have. The worst that can happen is that their "fix" will hide their stuff even deeper. The best that it will do what it says it will do. Chances are, they'll just make the systme more unstable. He'll have to write zeros over every sector on the drive to remove every last vestige of their stuff then reinstall, which is what he's fsing right now anyway.

                                        patbob

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                                          Reformatting the drive doesn't help with this virus. It installs in sector zero and manipulates things so you can't touch that sector under Windows. My roommate found you could access it from Linux and squash it.

                                          I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                                          ThePotty1
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                                          Well when I 'format' a drive, I first delete the partition and re-create it. Is that enough or should I delete the partition, shut down and remove power for a couple of seconds, and then start again? Then I might as well kill the partition with a bootable linux cd, then boot and install windows.

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