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English subtitle for Avatar.Featurette Creating.the.World.of.Pandora.1080P.H264.AAC2.0

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  • C Christian Graus

    harold aptroot wrote:

    downloading movies is legal where I live

    Really ? I feel sorry for you then, being a software developer in a country where copyright is not respected.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    It's disrespected selectively. Downloading copyrighted software is not allowed (but it's not enforced). Downloading copyrighted movies is only allowed for non-commercial use (also not enforced).

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      I can't find it. Are you sure the version you downloaded is popular? Usually there are only subs for the popular versions. For the rest you'd have to play with your track synchronization a bit, which is annoying, but better than no subs.. (IMO) If it has the title "Avatar (2009) PROPER TS XviD-MAX" that's a guaranteed win, not HD but HD is pointless for anything but a rip anyway - seriously, a DVDScr or TS in HD? But hey, just my opinion. So good luck. btw, before I/you/we/anyone gets flamed heavily, downloading movies is legal where I live and I didn't link to anything inappropriate.

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      harold aptroot wrote:

      downloading movies is legal where I live

      It wasn't for Piratebay.

      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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        harold aptroot wrote:

        downloading movies is legal where I live

        It wasn't for Piratebay.

        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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        The charge laid against them was not "downloading movies for non-commercial use", but "facilitating copyright infringement" (and a couple of other things, but they were later dropped) Downloading movies for non-commercial use is not considered copyright infringement here (not yet anyway.. I hope it stays this way)

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          It's disrespected selectively. Downloading copyrighted software is not allowed (but it's not enforced). Downloading copyrighted movies is only allowed for non-commercial use (also not enforced).

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          Christian Graus
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          OK, so you live in a revolting third world hell hole, but you want people who live there with you to respect YOUR copyright, unlike the way you treat others ?

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          • C Christian Graus

            OK, so you live in a revolting third world hell hole, but you want people who live there with you to respect YOUR copyright, unlike the way you treat others ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Well I didn't make the laws :) I never said they make sense (which clearly they do not), I'm just presenting the facts.

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              harold aptroot wrote:

              downloading movies is legal where I live

              It wasn't for Piratebay.

              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              The Pirate Bay conviction had nothing to do with downloading illegal material, as their servers had nothing illegal on it. The Pirate Bay was convicted because they helped facilitate sharing copyright protected material through the use of torrent files. IIRC, there will be an appeal. I think they will be freed this time, because from what I can tell, these guys haven't really broken any Swedish law, as the Pirate Bay servers never mediated any of the protected content.

              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                The Pirate Bay conviction had nothing to do with downloading illegal material, as their servers had nothing illegal on it. The Pirate Bay was convicted because they helped facilitate sharing copyright protected material through the use of torrent files. IIRC, there will be an appeal. I think they will be freed this time, because from what I can tell, these guys haven't really broken any Swedish law, as the Pirate Bay servers never mediated any of the protected content.

                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                Christian Graus
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                Then the laws need to change.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Then the laws need to change.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  What needs to be done is to make IP laws that protects the IP owner AND the citizen. Should eBay be held liable for each stolen item that is sold using their services? There is no clear cut answer. What I do know is that whenever laws are to be passed, they should be designed to protect citizens and corporations alike, and not some private interest.

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                    It's disrespected selectively. Downloading copyrighted software is not allowed (but it's not enforced). Downloading copyrighted movies is only allowed for non-commercial use (also not enforced).

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                    That may be the case for material that was acquired legally. In the case of Avatar, though, the only way a copy can possibly be available right now is through illegal means (it certainly isn't out on DVD or BluRay yet) so I doubt those same laws would apply. Possession of stolen material is entirely different from copyright. Cheers, Drew.

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                      That may be the case for material that was acquired legally. In the case of Avatar, though, the only way a copy can possibly be available right now is through illegal means (it certainly isn't out on DVD or BluRay yet) so I doubt those same laws would apply. Possession of stolen material is entirely different from copyright. Cheers, Drew.

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                      Interesting point. I'm afraid I don't know what would happen. I'll look it up, but I'm not a lawyer so the legal language may bite me..

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                        Interesting point. I'm afraid I don't know what would happen. I'll look it up, but I'm not a lawyer so the legal language may bite me..

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                        harold aptroot wrote:

                        Interesting point. I'm afraid I don't know what would happen. I'll look it up, but I'm not a lawyer so the legal language may bite me..

                        I'm certainly no lawyer either, but I find all of this interesting. I know much of this will change in Canada soon as our Copyright Board is holding talks this spring. Hopefully the changes strike a good balance between the various competing interests. Cheers, Drew.

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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          Interesting point. I'm afraid I don't know what would happen. I'll look it up, but I'm not a lawyer so the legal language may bite me..

                          I'm certainly no lawyer either, but I find all of this interesting. I know much of this will change in Canada soon as our Copyright Board is holding talks this spring. Hopefully the changes strike a good balance between the various competing interests. Cheers, Drew.

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                          Well I found it, creating a private copy is legal regardless of whether the source is legal or not, and then there is some reasoning about the ~50% tax on blank disks. It doesn't actually make sense though. Because: 1) What if you don't burn the private copy to a blank disk? No provisions were made for this. And I never burn movies, I just watch them straight from my hdd, it's just easier.. 2) Buying blank disks from Belgium or Germany removes the "copy tax". The law does not make sense, what else is new. Parts of it are from 1912. It's definitely time for a rewrite. edit: also, good luck with your new laws in Canada :thumbsup:

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            OK, so you live in a revolting third world hell hole, but you want people who live there with you to respect YOUR copyright, unlike the way you treat others ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            OK, so you live in a revolting third world hell hole,

                            I don't think the Netherlands is considered to be a "third world" country. /ravi

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              OK, so you live in a revolting third world hell hole,

                              I don't think the Netherlands is considered to be a "third world" country. /ravi

                              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Yeah, I thought that was a bit rich...

                              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                What needs to be done is to make IP laws that protects the IP owner AND the citizen. Should eBay be held liable for each stolen item that is sold using their services? There is no clear cut answer. What I do know is that whenever laws are to be passed, they should be designed to protect citizens and corporations alike, and not some private interest.

                                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                There's a huge difference between a business that has an small percentage of stolen merchandise and removes it when they become aware of it, and one whose business is almost entirely[^] the distribution of stolen material whose response to being called on it is to taunt the owners of the material. If what they're doing isn't illegal the problem is your laws.

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