I want to emigrate to Australia
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Yeah, if I'm honest it's a downside. I don't like the idea of my little boy playing in the back garden and coming across a poisonous {insert dangerous animal here}. However, it's pretty rare so it's a risk worth taking I think.
Joan Murt wrote:
Good luck if you travel there...
Thanks!
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I heard New Zealand is easier to get into, and its WAY prettier than Australia. And its got skiing! Dont know how good the IT game is there though. ANyway, I agree,. The UK has such appaling weather and is so overcrowded in the SE at least.
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I've always wanted to visit NZ... Looks like a beautiful country. Australia too, but NZ even more so... But it's just so far away! Isn't it like a 20+ hour flight from the US? Lewis Black said it best... "If the people of New Zealand want to be a part of OUR world, then they should all step off their little island and push it closer!"
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Definitely +5 :)
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And the crap beer.
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I've always wanted to visit NZ... Looks like a beautiful country. Australia too, but NZ even more so... But it's just so far away! Isn't it like a 20+ hour flight from the US? Lewis Black said it best... "If the people of New Zealand want to be a part of OUR world, then they should all step off their little island and push it closer!"
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)I spent a year in NZ as a kid (7 years old) in north island, arond Auckland and further north. It is a staggeringly beautiful country, and almost empty. We then drove across Auxtralia. NSW is OK, but lacks the tropical look of NZ. The rest is dry and hot.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
But it's just so far away! Isn't it like a 20+ hour flight from the US?
Even worse from the UK.
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:laugh: I only speak English, so most of Europe's out of the question.
Holland and FLanders is pretty much bilingial Dutch-English, but picking up a bit of Dutch helps, and its not that difficult. The main attraction with Europe is the cultural richness compared to Australia, and the cafe and restaurant lifestyle. Hollland, Belgium, Luxembourg are great places to be, Germany and France are close, as is the UK. Denmark not a million miles away. Still, you need a bit of language. I learnt French form one of those 'Learn French in a month' books and got a job in Aix, in France, for a US company. And many companies have a policy of using English, even ones not having an English/US component, such as German/French/Italian firms. They will use English beause ot gives them all an unfair advantage and they all know it well enough. Mind you the weather isnt any beter. If you want that then head for Sophia in the South of France. A lot of IT, mostly GSM based, and chip manufacture. If not Barcelona is supposed to be up and coming. Spanish is pretty easy to get to grips with.
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Really? Here in the Netherlands we have many English/Dutch 2-language signs.. And everyone here speaks English (with "everyone" I mean "everyone who also speaks Dutch and is of reasonable age") .. to some degree anyway.. Of course France would be hopeless though :) edit: but of course if you're moving for the weather, the Netherlands doesn't help at all, the weather isn't any better than in the UK
I found English a lot less used in Maastricht than in north Belgium though. In many pubs I had tro order in Dutch. Not that its difficult. Mag ik nog een dre and dirticher alsjeblieft. (Or at least somethign like that)! Anyway, the frogs language isnt so bad, its their bloody accent that the bugger. Especially down south!
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harold aptroot wrote:
Here in the Netherlands we have many English/Dutch 2-language signs..
The Hell you say! Where I am, they're Frisian/Dutch 2-language signs!
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Yeah, if I'm honest it's a downside. I don't like the idea of my little boy playing in the back garden and coming across a poisonous {insert dangerous animal here}. However, it's pretty rare so it's a risk worth taking I think.
Joan Murt wrote:
Good luck if you travel there...
Thanks!
In the south of france we have locusts, wasps the size of USB sticks, moths the size of small birds, vipers, scorpions, mosquitos, big green lizards that bite really badly, and bizare tiny things that leave a visible hole in your skin whcih then swells up to the size of a ping pong ball and leave your limb almost incapable of movement! But Australia is the worst for everything though it has to be said.
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Any tips? I'm fed up with England - it's cold, overcrowded and expensive. I crave a warm climate, the outdoor life and great beaches. Is Australia all it's cracked up to be? I have a wife and a small baby and I'd like to make the break in the next year or two, has anyone here made the move? What's the software development industry like out there?
I want to emigrate to Australia, but it looks like they aren't letting anyone in, especially folks like me in their late 40s. My CFO is from the Brisbane area and a friend of my wife now lives in Melbourne with her New Zealand born husband. I keep hoping either will come up with a solution.
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And Fris is supposed to be the closest language to English. DOnt know how close, havent been there, but its supposed to sound the same at times.
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Grammatically, it's closer to English than Dutch, but the words are just as much gibberish.
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We wanted you guys in the 50s. Blame your parents for not coming out then. The industry where I live is dead, but I am in the country. It's still the best bloody country to live in on the earth.
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Any tips? I'm fed up with England - it's cold, overcrowded and expensive. I crave a warm climate, the outdoor life and great beaches. Is Australia all it's cracked up to be? I have a wife and a small baby and I'd like to make the break in the next year or two, has anyone here made the move? What's the software development industry like out there?
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Really? I'm quite surprised to hear that, I've always found that's it's portrayed positively. Where would you suggest as an alternative?
You must read/believe the advertising brochures. The beaches are actually beautiful, the down side is that the entire beach from is lined by 15 storey apartment buildings for holidaying families and their uncivilised children. I know this as my grand kids go there regularly. We have not been there in 20 years. I would be surprised if there is an IT industry there. One on the biggest differences I found between working in the UK and Oz is that the UK is decentralised to a larger degree. There is almost no IT work outside of the capital cities in each state. Oh and it's a bloody long way between cities, I once drove from Essex to Cornwall, took 5 hours. That is LESS than half the distance between Sydney and Brisbane.
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I've always wanted to visit NZ... Looks like a beautiful country. Australia too, but NZ even more so... But it's just so far away! Isn't it like a 20+ hour flight from the US? Lewis Black said it best... "If the people of New Zealand want to be a part of OUR world, then they should all step off their little island and push it closer!"
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)Poms feel right at home in NZ, it is nice and wet and quite cozy. In the 90s there was some excellent software coming out of NZ.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Joke: Kangaroos, wallabies, snakes, spiders, ... Be careful. Seriously: Good luck if you travel there...
I always used to be thankful that I did not grow up anywhere else, we just have spiders and snakes at least they don't frakkin eat you like bears and tigers and other beasties.
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Any tips? I'm fed up with England - it's cold, overcrowded and expensive. I crave a warm climate, the outdoor life and great beaches. Is Australia all it's cracked up to be? I have a wife and a small baby and I'd like to make the break in the next year or two, has anyone here made the move? What's the software development industry like out there?
TheIdleProgrammer wrote:
Is Australia all it's cracked up to be?
Yes. Yes it is. :D (Christian lives in Tasmania which is a small island the rest of the mainland set adrift back in antiquity. The rest of Australia's IT industry is as healthy as anywhere else during these times)
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Sydney is without doubt one of the worlds best cities in terms of lifestyle and opportunity. Come on down! If you want to email me privately I'll try and answer any questions
Sydney is definitely a great city, almost as good as Melbourne ;)
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I want to emigrate to Australia, but it looks like they aren't letting anyone in, especially folks like me in their late 40s. My CFO is from the Brisbane area and a friend of my wife now lives in Melbourne with her New Zealand born husband. I keep hoping either will come up with a solution.
A friend from Toronto just escapedmoved to Melbourne - she had very little trouble getting a work permit for 18 months.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
