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    So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


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    "The project is no longer ecconomically viable"

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      "The project is no longer ecconomically viable"

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      Damn! You beat me to it!

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        So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


        I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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        Dalek Dave
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        Having had to seek medical advice after damaged caused by the severe laughing fit entered into whilst reading your recent communication I hereby enclose bill for same. Certainly it is viable to go off and work, so after paying for my clinic attendance, please feel free to f#ck off!

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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          So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


          I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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          Nish Nishant
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          If you have the time, why don't you send them a quote? If they are desperate enough, they'll probably take you up on whatever you ask them.

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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            So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


            I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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            Dear Sir, It is with great honour and respect that I must ask you kindly to p**s off. Yours faithfully Mark Nischalke

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              So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


              I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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              Keith Barrow
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              My rates have just multiplied to the point where you can't afford them BOOOWAAAA HA HAA HA HAA!

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                So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


                I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Dear Sir I would love to get back on board with the project. Naturally my rates have risen considerably since last we worked together and I now only fly first-class on business trips with stays in 5 star hotels the norm. All at your expense, of course. My initial consultation is now charged at a minimum of 2 days at $(rate). Please settle the enclosed invoice by return at which point I will be more than happy to come over and tell you how much I will be charging you and how long the project will now take. Yours smugly (optional) Mark

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                  So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


                  I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                  1. Never say no, just inflate the price. 2. Require a significant up front payment.

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                    So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


                    I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                    Dear Sir, Baahahahahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaahahhahahaahahhhhaaahaaaaaahahahaaa...ahhaaa... ahahahahaahahhaaaaaaaaahhehahaaaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhaaaaaaa... ...ahem....bbbbaaahahahahaahahaahahahahahhahahahahahhhaaaaaaaaaaaa! Ahem...heeheee..hee... *cough* No. Best regards, Mark

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                      If you have the time, why don't you send them a quote? If they are desperate enough, they'll probably take you up on whatever you ask them.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      they'll probably take you up on whatever you ask them.

                      I have to agree you here, they sound like they're between a rock and a hard place, time to turn the screws, CHA-CHING!.

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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        they'll probably take you up on whatever you ask them.

                        I have to agree you here, they sound like they're between a rock and a hard place, time to turn the screws, CHA-CHING!.

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        jeron1 wrote:

                        I have to agree you here, they sound like they're between a rock and a hard place, time to turn the screws, CHA-CHING!.

                        Yeah, also we only have the OP's view of things. We may hear a completely different story if we talked to this client/vendor :-)

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                          So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


                          I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          I don't think I'd respond at all.

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                            jeron1 wrote:

                            I have to agree you here, they sound like they're between a rock and a hard place, time to turn the screws, CHA-CHING!.

                            Yeah, also we only have the OP's view of things. We may hear a completely different story if we talked to this client/vendor :-)

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                            jeron1
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                            True, but more often than not I'm inclined to believe the developers, as I've known several where their clients basically wanted free maintenance on an app. they were involved with.

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                              So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


                              I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Would you be so kind as to f##k off and die you p##s drinking c##k s####r.


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                                So I get an email from a former client asking me to spend some time getting an off shore team up to speed on a project I had been working on. I left the project because the client cut costs, wouldn't follow the SDLC and continually changed the scope. Now they want me to spend my time, unpaid of course, to send the work overseas. What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?


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                                Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                What's the polite way to tell them to piss off?

                                Please piss off, sir. And have a good day! Seriously, I'd let by-gones be by-gones and send them a bid for the requested work with some token payment up front to cover expenses, etc. If they accept and you get a check, then all is well. If not, both sides will know where they stand.

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                                Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                  If you have the time, why don't you send them a quote? If they are desperate enough, they'll probably take you up on whatever you ask them.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                  My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                  That's why they are going offshore, they don't want to pay current rates.


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                                    1. Never say no, just inflate the price. 2. Require a significant up front payment.

                                    Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                    megaadam
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                                    I would advise against that. Unless he is starving. This is clearly a client he doesnt wanna touch with a ten-foot-pole.

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                                      1. Never say no, just inflate the price. 2. Require a significant up front payment.

                                      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                      Trollslayer wrote:

                                      2. Require a significant up front payment.

                                      And stage payment the rest - with a small retention to make them feel they can stiff you if they feel like it (when you don't actually care too much about that 10%, as you already have the 90%)

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                                        1. Never say no, just inflate the price. 2. Require a significant up front payment.

                                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                        Trollslayer wrote:

                                        Require a significant up front payment.

                                        That's why they are going offshore, they don't want to pay.


                                        I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                                          Having had to seek medical advice after damaged caused by the severe laughing fit entered into whilst reading your recent communication I hereby enclose bill for same. Certainly it is viable to go off and work, so after paying for my clinic attendance, please feel free to f#ck off!

                                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          Having had to seek medical advice after damaged caused by the severe laughing fit entered into whilst reading your recent communication I hereby enclose bill for same.

                                          :-D

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